furshed
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Post by furshed on Jan 3, 2012 6:43:12 GMT -6
is it legal to shoot all furbearing animals in iowa?
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Post by iayogi17 on Jan 3, 2012 7:51:14 GMT -6
as in hunting them No you can not shoot all furbearing animals in IA
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 3, 2012 10:13:17 GMT -6
as in hunting them No you can not shoot all furbearing animals in IA Could you be more spacific yogi? What can't you shoot and why?
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Post by six5hunter on Jan 3, 2012 13:13:14 GMT -6
So on this topic and the one on coon calling...is it legal to call coons with an eletronic call? I only see reference to deer and turkey not being able to use electronic calls. Am I missing something as I was told what I was doing is illegal. And if it's legal what about public ground?
I might be in trouble!
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Post by six5hunter on Jan 3, 2012 13:14:25 GMT -6
as in hunting them No you can not shoot all furbearing animals in IA And what furbearers can you not shoot?
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Post by bigbuckhunter88 on Jan 3, 2012 13:28:50 GMT -6
From my talk with the DNR you can only shoot coons, coyotes, fox, bobcats (in the zone before the quota is filled) and ground hogs. Can't shoot beaver, mink, muskrats, or any other furbearer not mentioned. Had a guy down the road fed up with his beaver problem so he was waiting at the dam with his .22 and the DNR came up and gave him a pretty good rear chewin. Not sure why, but thats what I was told.
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Post by iasc300 on Jan 3, 2012 14:06:45 GMT -6
From my talk with the DNR you can only shoot coons, coyotes, fox, bobcats (in the zone before the quota is filled) and ground hogs. Can't shoot beaver, mink, muskrats, or any other furbearer not mentioned. Had a guy down the road fed up with his beaver problem so he was waiting at the dam with his .22 and the DNR came up and gave him a pretty good rear chewin. Not sure why, but thats what I was told. He wouldnt of if he would of called the DNR first. I had a bad problem with muskrats burrowing holes in my ponds dam and they gave me the go ahead to shoot them, since they were destroying my property.
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Post by LLLTrapper on Jan 3, 2012 14:43:13 GMT -6
Could it have anything to do with it being illegal to shoot a rifle across water and actually pretty stupid to do? They don't always stay in the water. Shotgunning fur is not smart either though. LLL
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Post by walleyehunter123 on Jan 3, 2012 14:54:12 GMT -6
you can only shoot a coon while using dogs or calling device when hunting them you can not shoot a coon when you are driving by and he's in the road ditch and jump out and shoot it that's against the law
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Post by TRAPPERTOM on Jan 3, 2012 14:58:39 GMT -6
so you cannot shoot coon with a 22 pistol when ROW trapping?
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Post by Eric Rector on Jan 3, 2012 15:25:32 GMT -6
Slippery slope ahead, be careful, would comment, but would be labeled a or splitting hairs and an arguement would ensue. I think if one reads the rules and regulations carefully, you will see what you can hunt because there is a season listed for it and what you can trap, because there is a season listed for it, and method of take for both activities. Dispatch methods are not listed, but if you carefully read, I am sure alot of violations are occuring, especially when it comes to rifles.
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Post by iayogi17 on Jan 3, 2012 15:33:23 GMT -6
Slippery slope ahead, be careful, would comment, but would be labeled a or splitting hairs and an arguement would ensue. I think if one reads the rules and regulations carefully, you will see what you can hunt because there is a season listed for it and what you can trap, because there is a season listed for it, and method of take for both activities. Dispatch methods are not listed, but if you carefully read, I am sure alot of violations are occuring, especially when it comes to rifles. thank you Eric
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Post by Scott W. on Jan 3, 2012 16:41:46 GMT -6
I beg to differ about the coon in the road ditch, or other public (or private for that matter) land, during day light hours. Just don't use a rifle in the ditch. A shotgun, pistol or revolver is ok if you are in the ditch and not shooting over the "highway". If it is after dark you may not use an artificial light for coon unless you have a dog.
Shooting Rifle Over Water or Highway You cannot shoot any rifle on or over any of the public highways or waters of the state or any railroad right-of-way. You cannot discharge a shotgun shooting a slug, pistol or revolver on or over a public roadway (see diagram below). Additionally, no person shall discharge a rifle, including a muzzleloading rifle or musket, or a handgun from a highway; or discharge a shotgun shooting slugs from a highway north of U.S. Highway 30, while deer hunting. “Roadway” means the portion of the highway improved, designed or ordinarily used for vehicular travel, including the shoulder. “Highway” means the entire width between property lines, from fenceline to fenceline (includes the ditches)
Notice, there is a difference between "highway" and "roadway"
Hope this helps.
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 3, 2012 17:06:44 GMT -6
So is it illegal to shoot a beaver, mink or rat if you find him out of the creek, say up in the corn field? Assuming you have permission to be on the land and you have all the licenses, no light, etc...
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Post by Eric Rector on Jan 3, 2012 17:25:35 GMT -6
So is it illegal to shoot a beaver, mink or rat if you find him out of the creek, say up in the corn field? Assuming you have permission to be on the land and you have all the licenses, no light, etc... Is there a " hunting" season on beaver, mink or muskrats.....no there is not, so no you could not shoot it arbitrarily
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Post by Austin K on Jan 3, 2012 17:29:21 GMT -6
So is it illegal to shoot a beaver, mink or rat if you find him out of the creek, say up in the corn field? Assuming you have permission to be on the land and you have all the licenses, no light, etc... x2!!! and im confused... so you can or can not discharge a pistol in the ROW?? (ditch or whatever you want to call it)
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kellogg
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Post by kellogg on Jan 3, 2012 17:42:32 GMT -6
I just wonder how many people actually read the regulations or if they just have very little comprehension ability.
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Post by jbruegge on Jan 3, 2012 18:20:55 GMT -6
Wow, so I either need to buy a pistol for next year or dispatch via BFT when ROW trapping next year instead of using my .22 rifle.
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 3, 2012 18:27:46 GMT -6
Wow, so I either need to buy a pistol for next year or dispatch via BFT when ROW trapping next year instead of using my .22 rifle. Its been that way for years. ~ADC~
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Post by jbruegge on Jan 3, 2012 18:47:49 GMT -6
Wow, so I either need to buy a pistol for next year or dispatch via BFT when ROW trapping next year instead of using my .22 rifle. Its been that way for years. ~ADC~ Yeah, but NOW I know better. Guess I never read it that close did what seemed logical (using what I already owned)
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Post by dfox on Jan 3, 2012 18:51:37 GMT -6
it says on the furharvester seasons that mink, muskrat, beaver and otters -trapped only
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 3, 2012 18:53:47 GMT -6
it says on the furharvester seasons that mink, muskrat, beaver and otters -trapped only I thought I read that. I went to check but I couldn't get the web page to come up. Thanks Dave! ~ADC~
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 3, 2012 19:10:29 GMT -6
SpeciesCoyote, Mink 3, Muskrat 3, Weasel, Striped Skunk, Badger, Opossum, Fox (Red and Gray), Raccoon Beaver 3Otter 1, 3Bobcat 2Civet Cat (Spotted Skunk), Gray Wolf Furbearer Trapping Information1 Until quota is met. Only three otters are allowed per licensed furharvester. See p. 21. 2 Until quota is met. Only one bobcat is allowed per season per licensed furharvester, either hunted or trapped. Additional requirements and map on p. 21. 3 Trapped only.A furharvester license is required to hunt or trap furbearers. Coyote or groundhog may be hunted on a small game or furharvester license. Got the regs to come up on the lap top. ~ADC~
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 3, 2012 19:13:58 GMT -6
Yeah, but NOW I know better. Guess I never read it that close did what seemed logical (using what I already owned) Lots of people don't realize that law is written the way it is. You should keep your ball bat in the truck too if you're trapping the ROW's "within 200 yards of a building inhabited by people or domestic livestock or a feedlot unless the owner or tenant has given consent to do so. Feedlot means a lot, yard or cor- ral where livestock is confined for the purpose of feeding and growth prior to slaughter. Pastures, hayfields or cropfields where animals are allowed to graze are not considered feedlots." since "you cannot dis- charge a firearm or shoot or attempt to shoot a game or furbearing animal" within 200 yards of them things. ~ADC~
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Post by possum63 on Jan 3, 2012 20:37:58 GMT -6
Not trying to "hijack" this thread but I have been told by my game warden that when I am checking my traps in the dark with a gun in the vehicle I must pull up, get out of the vehicle, walk to my set and light it up. You cannot pull up, roll the window down and shine the trap. He considers this "shineing". I believe this is one of the rules that it all depends on what kind of mood they are in, but he told me it is illeagal non-the-less.
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Post by grinnergetter on Jan 3, 2012 22:02:25 GMT -6
flashlight and 22 pistol used here in the dark on trapped animals. We try and let it get light out but sometimes get out a little early and have to use the light
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Post by dahlyjr28 on Jan 3, 2012 22:15:08 GMT -6
I talked to my CO on this and was given the OK for the rifel and hand gun in the ditch. I think it's all up to the CO. For those that have a CWP how many carry on the ATV?
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Post by iayogi17 on Jan 4, 2012 7:47:58 GMT -6
ADC, I'm glad others are jumping in to help clarify this, I'm a lil slow on the net now days.
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Post by Eric Rector on Jan 4, 2012 13:38:54 GMT -6
I talked to my CO on this and was given the OK for the rifel and hand gun in the ditch. I think it's all up to the CO. For those that have a CWP how many carry on the ATV? What happens when a deputy sheriff has a bone to pick with you or another CO comes along and see's you shooting a roadditch with a rifle....Just saying
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plumber
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Post by plumber on Jan 4, 2012 18:13:37 GMT -6
two things, one leg holds can be within 200 yards dp included, but you cannot use a firearm to dispatch. two i heard of a guy getting fined for shooting otter in his trap. again it does depend on co's mood,but also don't think that your habits and or ways are not noticed by the co. always play by the rules and or be professional troubles will not play a part. USE YOUR HEAD AT ALL TIMES!!!
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