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Post by rockcreekshane on Sept 6, 2011 20:29:13 GMT -6
Yeah larry it obviously works I get that, just the pictures you posted looked like suitable terrain for a pocket set without worring about birds. If I tried that onn my line I think I would catch as many herons as coon not to mention hawks and owls and eagles. That set in Nebraska would just about be a gauranteed way to lose your license. Any way I am just bustin your balls a little I am getting bored with summer and to busy with work to do much prep for the season yet.
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Post by bogio on Sept 6, 2011 22:13:42 GMT -6
While the CO might not be able to do anything about the FS set itself in a nonrestricted area, you could possibly be charged with taking of a protected species. The bigger problem as I see it is if the wrong person encounters an incidental catch such as a heron/hawk/eagle. These things end up in the media where we get treated about as well as a Tea Party member at the Democratic National Convention. Keeping your FSs under bridges out of sight goes along ways towards avoiding potential problems.
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Post by jim87formula on Sept 7, 2011 4:07:09 GMT -6
Question here!! Lol... Ok do ya guys use like 1.5 coil springs or what on the fence pole? And second does anybody have any pics how you mount the bait with the cover and wire? Thanks! This set up is way new to me, very interesting though...
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Post by dspree on Sept 7, 2011 10:11:23 GMT -6
I don't have any pics of the way I conceal my FS set. Like most people, I just use a fish head and shove the fence post through the center of the head tehn I grab a hand full of grass about a foot long and fold it in half over the fish head and wrap a piece of wire around to hold it in place. I have also heard of guys using a rubber band to hold the grass wad in place. Ihave in the past just used the fence post as a stake, but I think I might use a drowner cable instead where I can this year.
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Post by 4fur on Sept 7, 2011 19:32:35 GMT -6
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Post by big al on Sept 7, 2011 20:33:04 GMT -6
Is it legal to use the FS under a bridge in the restricted areas?
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Post by jim87formula on Sept 7, 2011 23:19:00 GMT -6
Thanks dspree and 4fur... For traps, if using 1.5 coil springs how many you use and how close do ya set them up by the fence pole? And 4fur what's the yellow thingy wrapped around that pole? Thanks again!
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Post by dspree on Sept 8, 2011 6:22:19 GMT -6
Most places I use just one trap, but there are places I could use two. If my FS is a foot from the bank I would put a trap on the two sides about 4-6 inches from the trap.
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Post by 4fur on Sept 8, 2011 13:16:53 GMT -6
4fur what's the yellow thingy wrapped around that pole? Thanks again! Excess garden produce is a variety of winter squash called Delicata in that picture, Jim. It is just a bait holder, something to smear on some jelly, ground fish, whatever.
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Post by riverbandit on Sept 8, 2011 17:30:17 GMT -6
I'm trying to figure out why you are even bothering with all the hassle, Birds, Fence posts, when you have open water. Why not make a pocket. Yeah I know banks frozen, but a couple wacks with a sharp spade and that crust comes off. HAHAHA......I tell you what Shane, your welcome to come over when my banks freeze up and you can show me how you break the frozen crust with a couple whacks of a spade. LOL Trust me, it ain't happening. Course most times I watch the weather it may be 10 degrees here and 20 in eastern Neb. We get a little more than a thin layer of frozen bank around here.
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Post by rockcreekshane on Sept 8, 2011 20:45:47 GMT -6
Maybe its the guy running the spade I was mostly giving lll a hard time, Waynes pics do make more sense with all the snow. I did do something similar years ago. Bunch of cement drainage ditches that run about 6 inches of water in them in Lincoln with tons of coon, I would take a cement block and stand it on end in the middle of a ditch, wire a #2DLS to it and put your bait in the top of the block.crude but effective
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Post by kyle on Sept 9, 2011 13:34:44 GMT -6
I'm trying to figure out why you are even bothering with all the hassle, Birds, Fence posts, when you have open water. Why not make a pocket. Yeah I know banks frozen, but a couple wacks with a sharp spade and that crust comes off. HAHAHA......I tell you what Shane, your welcome to come over when my banks freeze up and you can show me how you break the frozen crust with a couple whacks of a spade. LOL Trust me, it ain't happening. Course most times I watch the weather it may be 10 degrees here and 20 in eastern Neb. We get a little more than a thin layer of frozen bank around here. I was thinking the same thing Dave. My arms and wrist hurt just thinking of trying to punch a spade into that frozen bank.
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Post by LLLTrapper on Sept 9, 2011 14:51:38 GMT -6
There are times I would like to hammer a pocket set in and I will use my ax and start it but it usually gets to be more work than carrying a couple traps and e-posts down the bank. But I still hate this set!! LLL
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Post by dolittle on Sept 9, 2011 16:13:48 GMT -6
Why electric fence posts?
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Post by LLLTrapper on Sept 9, 2011 17:31:53 GMT -6
Why electric fence posts? Dolittle you are persistant. To answer the question because you can impale a large chunk of bait and you can anchor your trap at the same time. It's as multitasking as it gets! LOL LLL
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Post by riverbandit on Sept 9, 2011 18:49:32 GMT -6
You could be right Shane...........I never have found the pull cord on the darn thing. LOL
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Post by rockcreekshane on Sept 9, 2011 19:17:58 GMT -6
Thats the problem Dave theres no cord on a pneumatic spade, all trappers have those right? How else wold you make predator sets.
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Post by x-demoman on Sept 9, 2011 20:04:08 GMT -6
I thought electric fence post were for electricity, that would assist with the dispatch wouldn't it.
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Post by dolittle on Sept 9, 2011 20:40:00 GMT -6
Why not use rebar?
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Post by dfox on Sept 9, 2011 21:10:00 GMT -6
you can still use the fish sticks in the counties listed in the rules where is says you can't. it just means you cant use the exposed bait in the specific river valleys they list, the mississippi, des moines river and the missouri river. other than that you can trap in the rest of the county with fish sticks. I got that info straight from the game warden and I trap in Dallas county.
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Post by dfox on Sept 9, 2011 21:10:53 GMT -6
You can with a staple welded to the top to help hold the bait. many people do.
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Post by 4fur on Sept 9, 2011 21:55:48 GMT -6
You can with a staple welded to the top to help hold the bait. many people do. I've tried some different FS set ups including 1/2" rebar with a staple... 1/2 inch is too heavy IMO. The staple eventually breaks off but was good at ruining gauntlets and getting tangled up in storage or the back of my truck. The coon would too often get the trap hung on it too which nullified the swivels which is never good. I encourage you to try different things, but keep in mind the old saying about learning from others' mistakes is better than learning from your own. ;D
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Post by 4fur on Sept 9, 2011 22:08:32 GMT -6
Another FS variation... They work well with jelly or sticky baits and ground fish. They are lower profile in high theft areas and work much better on a drowning set up for me than the electric posts.
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Post by bradphillips on Sept 10, 2011 7:02:06 GMT -6
Tried the re-bar staple combo, trap hangs up on staple causing pull outs and injury. Yup I'm a slow learner I just cut mine and made t-bars so its not a total loss.
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Post by dolittle on Sept 10, 2011 13:09:58 GMT -6
Why not wire the fish on
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Post by bradphillips on Sept 10, 2011 13:51:15 GMT -6
I might wire some on if it is being stolen, otherwise I see wire as just another thing to carry,lose or forget. A person could get by real well by looking at 4FUR's pictures and not even bothering to read the posts.
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Post by beef52751 on Sept 10, 2011 23:58:59 GMT -6
you can still use the fish sticks in the counties listed in the rules where is says you can't. it just means you cant use the exposed bait in the specific river valleys they list, the mississippi, des moines river and the missouri river. other than that you can trap in the rest of the county with fish sticks. I got that info straight from the game warden and I trap in Dallas county. Can anyone else attest to this??? Not that i don't trust you dfox, i just want to make sure its not just one wardens interpretation.
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Post by LLLTrapper on Sept 11, 2011 6:53:02 GMT -6
I listen to the guy who writes the tickets. If you have a Federal Warden run into you setting sticks with exposed bait you may wish you had not made the set. LLL
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Post by bradphillips on Sept 12, 2011 16:37:37 GMT -6
Back when meth was a bigger problem, we were out trying to find another truck with coon hunters in it (friends). Ran into a Federal Marshall on a stake out in an old cemetery sitting in his truck at around 1:00 am. He was watching a small farm that was a hot spot. Never seen a real live Federal Marshall till that night. We nick named him Rooster cogburn
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Post by sako222j on Sept 12, 2011 18:27:20 GMT -6
The State of Iowa is very specific about where you can and can't use exposed bait over water. In addition, the state would not allow one to use exposed bait over any water in any area that the "fed's" didn't approve of.
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