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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 16, 2011 15:10:17 GMT -6
Hunters who plan to pursue doves this fall will be allowed to use lead shot except on wildlife areas that require the use of non-toxic shot for hunting any species, except deer and turkey, which are listed on p. 16 of the Iowa Hunting and Trapping regulations booklet available at more than 800 locations in Iowa and online at www.iowadnr.gov/hunting. The correction in the regulations booklet is on p. 3 under the heading Highlights or Changes to the 2011-2012 Hunting and Trapping Regulations that states: Hunters are required to use non-toxic shot to hunt doves. The non-toxic shot requirement was discussed during the Administrative Rules Review Committee Tuesday that placed a session delay on it to allow the Iowa legislature to address the requirement.
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Post by imissed on Aug 16, 2011 16:54:25 GMT -6
Not that I plan on hunting doves here in Ia., I go to MS. for that. But here's one thing I haven't heard of here in Ia that is the law in MS.
You must have a duck plug in your gun. 3 shot max. And I've been checked by the DNR too.
Is that a law here in Ia? After all doves are classified as a migratory bird.
Oh yeah, their tasty little things too.
Brad
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Post by tjk on Aug 16, 2011 18:28:37 GMT -6
Great, I already bought a case of steel shot.Guess I need to get some lead now.
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Post by kyle on Aug 16, 2011 19:32:52 GMT -6
I'll just stick with the steel shot I bought. Plus they'll double as good water swatting shells for cripples on the marsh.
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Post by jim87formula on Aug 16, 2011 20:08:44 GMT -6
Not that I plan on hunting doves here in Ia., I go to MS. for that. But here's one thing I haven't heard of here in Ia that is the law in MS. You must have a duck plug in your gun. 3 shot max. And I've been checked by the DNR too. Is that a law here in Ia? After all doves are classified as a migratory bird. Oh yeah, their tasty little things too. Brad Too answer your question Brad, there is no traditional ammunition ban so load em up!
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Post by hvtrapper on Aug 17, 2011 5:33:51 GMT -6
I was able to attend the rules/review meeting in Des Moines yesterday. Very interesting/irritating! I won't be surprised to see non-lead loads required in 2012. I'd hang on to the steel loads you guys have already bought and shoot lead this year. The delay was just that, a delay in the no lead rule. The legislature must act on this in it's next session or it automatically goes into effect at the end of the legislative session. As to plugged guns, I've dove hunted IL for the last 20+ years and that's the rule there.
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Post by hvtrapper on Aug 17, 2011 5:42:42 GMT -6
Hey Yogi, any links to info on the fields the DNR has enhanced for dove hunting? I talked to Willy Suchy yesterday and he mentioned that the DNR had dove fields in the works across the state except for the areas affected by the flooding.
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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 17, 2011 6:48:35 GMT -6
Hey Yogi, any links to info on the fields the DNR has enhanced for dove hunting? I talked to Willy Suchy yesterday and he mentioned that the DNR had dove fields in the works across the state except for the areas affected by the flooding. no links that I know of but I can tell you I'll be looking for new grass seeding (aka weeds). The past 5yrs thats where we have banded more then 700 doves in my area
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Post by skunkboy on Aug 17, 2011 6:49:04 GMT -6
I'm sure I read that you are limited to a three shot gun for doves. So a plug in pumps and auto's would be required. I shoot a dbl SxS so it don't matter to me. It does limit my shots to two per bird, so I might get to shoot at a few more birds that way ???.
At least I can now use up some of those 7 1/2's I've reloaded now. Without the change in the rules for this year, I'd probably be taking some of those reloads to my grave. This should be a great season...at least for shooting.
L8R...Ken
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Post by catting on Aug 17, 2011 6:53:44 GMT -6
I would give your local co or find which dnr wildlife unit is in charge of your public areas and give them a call ( you can find both of those in the dnr regs books or on their web site). I know of several areas around my area that have gotten planted into sunflowers, etc that will be mowed several days prior to the opener. They have also been planting winter wheat with the intentions of mowing that next year.
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Post by hvtrapper on Aug 17, 2011 12:20:46 GMT -6
Hey Yogi, any links to info on the fields the DNR has enhanced for dove hunting? I talked to Willy Suchy yesterday and he mentioned that the DNR had dove fields in the works across the state except for the areas affected by the flooding. no links that I know of but I can tell you I'll be looking for new grass seeding (aka weeds). The past 5yrs thats where we have banded more then 700 doves in my area Thanks, Brad. I know the doves like open areas, just tougher to hide me. I tend to pick out a good hiding place as close to dove activity as I can get then and set up some decoys. I'll get ahold of my local CO and ask if they know anything about local dove fields. Of course the DNR sites may be WMA areas and require non-lead.
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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 17, 2011 14:54:32 GMT -6
no links that I know of but I can tell you I'll be looking for new grass seeding (aka weeds). The past 5yrs thats where we have banded more then 700 doves in my area Thanks, Brad. I know the doves like open areas, just tougher to hide me. I tend to pick out a good hiding place as close to dove activity as I can get then and set up some decoys. I'll get ahold of my local CO and ask if they know anything about local dove fields. Of course the DNR sites may be WMA areas and require non-lead. Tom, Try getting ahold of the guys at green island there the ones that would have done the dove fields
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Post by kyle on Aug 17, 2011 16:12:19 GMT -6
Brad, would a cut hay field be a place of interest for doves? This field is right in the thick of dove roosts. Worth a shot?
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Post by jim87formula on Aug 17, 2011 16:35:06 GMT -6
I'm sure I read that you are limited to a three shot gun for doves. So a plug in pumps and auto's would be required. I shoot a dbl SxS so it don't matter to me. It does limit my shots to two per bird, so I might get to shoot at a few more birds that way ???. At least I can now use up some of those 7 1/2's I've reloaded now. Without the change in the rules for this year, I'd probably be taking some of those reloads to my grave. This should be a great season...at least for shooting. L8R...Ken Just got this off my e-mail.... Today, the Administrative Rules Committee met to review the National Resource Commissions (NRC) final rule for Iowas first dove hunting season. In a nine-to-one bipartisan vote, legislators overwhelmingly rejected the NRCs underhanded attempt to include a traditional ammunition ban in the final dove rule. This vote allows for a session-delay of the lead ammunition ban, meaning the legislature will have to act during the next legislative session to remove the ban from the final dove rule. However, Iowas first dove season will proceed and will not include a traditional ammunition ban. During a recent NRC meeting last month scheduled to set bag limits and the length of Iowas first dove season in nearly a century, commissioners launched a surprise attack by passing a ban on the use of traditional ammunition while hunting doves. The appointed seven-member, commission flagrantly usurped the authority of the legislators who debated the same ban and overwhelmingly rejected it. Here are three reasons why the use of traditional ammunition should NOT be banned: No scientific studies regarding traditional ammunition have been shown to have any population-level impacts on doves or other species. In fact, doves are the most popular and abundant game bird hunted in America with population levels at all-time highs. The price of non-traditional ammunition with similar performance characteristics is significantly higher and will keep many hunters from taking part in the historic dove season, especially in these dire economic times. In addition to the lack of sound science, the Commission enacted the lead ammunition ban in an underhanded fashion with no public comment or notice.
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Post by tjk on Aug 17, 2011 20:40:23 GMT -6
Just saw this on the DNR's website( DNR Wildlife Management Areas with Food Plots Attractive to Doves ).Its a pretty good list of areas that have been manipulated for Dove hunting.It must be for the areas run by the state as I didn't see any county areas listed.Looks like they did a decent job trying to help the dove hunters.
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Post by dfox on Aug 18, 2011 6:43:34 GMT -6
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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 18, 2011 6:45:02 GMT -6
Brad, would a cut hay field be a place of interest for doves? This field is right in the thick of dove roosts. Worth a shot? check it out. set around it some time and watch
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Post by imissed on Aug 18, 2011 17:05:55 GMT -6
Where I hunt in MS they plant fields for doves. Milo and sunflowers. Their about 1-2 acres in size. I'm guessing that next week they'll bush hog the fields to get ready for opening day. Same day as here.
But one thing they have very few of that we have a lot of is corn fields. A nearby farmer was chopping corn and I shot several that were stuffed with corn.
I know its a little early to chop corn up here, but once they start it might be something to keep in mind.
Brad
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