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Post by Bristleback on Aug 8, 2011 9:36:11 GMT -6
Does anyone know for a FACT as to how Iowa will interpret/respond/"reciprocate".......to the recent SD changes with regards to the drastic changes in "trapping season dates" for NON RESIDENTS?
I've hunted, trapped numerous states and welcome out of staters as I enjoy travelling myself. I'm 1000% all for the same rules, regs for all Res/NonRes.......same start dates, etc.
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Post by Scott W. on Aug 8, 2011 10:25:37 GMT -6
BB,
I don't have an answer for your question, but I think like you. When in Rome, do like the Romans do. Buy your license and trap like a local.
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Post by dspree on Aug 8, 2011 11:41:03 GMT -6
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Post by jdrogge on Aug 8, 2011 11:49:37 GMT -6
They should get what we have there, a small slice of the middle of winter to trap.  |
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Post by robertw on Aug 8, 2011 13:23:23 GMT -6
It is unfortunate but the states are going to have to deal with this in some manner to bring pressure to bear on Minnesota and South Dakota.
I think the states are going to have to take an "Equal / Fair Priveledges Reciprosity" (maybe not the best words) stance. If South Dakota doesn't allow Iowa residents to start the same time and trap on an equal basis to the resident trappers then SHUT THEM OUT TOTALLY and do not sell them a permit.
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Post by furgood on Aug 8, 2011 13:59:01 GMT -6
Next thing non- residents will be limited to only being able to fish early winter or early spring when the ice is unstable. Why wouldn't SD save the easy open-water or hard-ice season for the locals. Think of all the game fish non-residents take from and deny the good citizens of that state where I no longer fish or hunt or purchase anything from.
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Post by robertw on Aug 8, 2011 18:22:22 GMT -6
Then issue shooting permits to destroy the rats the first day after the close of season because they can not control this massive population.
This action was brought about because of GREED. Wildlife Management was not considered.
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Post by bradphillips on Aug 8, 2011 19:47:43 GMT -6
I have long thought that we should have some way to " be even" with Minn. What if you live on the border, that would limit you quite a bit. Even if you trapped "their" fur, you would spend money in a local economy to do it.
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Post by Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 21:41:40 GMT -6
I have long thought that we should have some way to " be even" with Minn. What if you live on the border, that would limit you quite a bit. Even if you trapped "their" fur, you would spend money in a local economy to do it. We do-they are not allowed to trap here until they allow NR to trap there! The way it stands right now with our "reciprocity" trapping license South Dakota residents can come here and trap under the same seasons, rules and regulations that we do and this action taken in Sd does not change that, unless an exception is made. |
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Post by LLLTrapper on Aug 9, 2011 5:35:13 GMT -6
Dec 3 sounds like a good date to let them start trapping here. No otter or cat season is open most of the states coon are sleeping and they could trap all the mangy yotes they can haul home. If we start seeing these coon prices come up we might see more than SD trappers. I have no problem with people trapping here but let's get it even or keep them out. Not stirrng the pot just saying...... LLL
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Post by robertw on Aug 9, 2011 7:35:57 GMT -6
LLLtrapper,
If any trapper is leaving snares in the field and breaking the law, resident or non-resident, this is something that the local Agents should be addressing and citations should be written.
Missiouri allows full priveledges to non-resident trappers. Non-residents can start on the same opening day, use the exact same tools as a resident and allowed to harvest as many bobcats and otter as they are physically able to catch, all on one of the cheappest non-resident permits sold in the United States.
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Post by LLLTrapper on Aug 9, 2011 7:55:10 GMT -6
I have no problem with MO. Thought about running down there at some point. Can a nr use cable restraints in MO. Do they offer a course for NRs ?  LLL |
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Post by robertw on Aug 9, 2011 8:09:28 GMT -6
Yes, non-residents can use cable restraints and yes, you must take a short education class (for now, there is talk this may be done away with in the next year or two).
Our coon population is definitely at the peak of it's cycle right now. Lots of us are concerned that we may see a die off in the next couple of months prior to season opening.
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Post by Scott W. on Aug 9, 2011 8:58:21 GMT -6
My big concern is that this all becomes a spiraling, protectionist race to the bottom. I don't know how to prevent it because it seems like the negative parts of human nature always rise to the top fastest. I'm truly in favor of a National Sportsman's License. Fishing, hunting, trapping, combined. Follow the laws of the state you are in, go where you want to. We are moving that direction with our conceal/carry permits for firearms. I can drive in any state in the nation with my Iowa license. Those of us who were/are in the military serve for the whole country, not just their home state. I'm a believer in State's rights, but don't believe, even in their purest form, were intended to keep other Americans out of an individual state.
Let's just not let this degenerate into a "mine only" situation, because everybody looses if that happens. Scott
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Post by furgood on Aug 9, 2011 9:23:28 GMT -6
What's done is done. Heck, I might even be able to get talked into going to SD again some day. Maybe while fishing or hunting ask about being able to trap on a marsh or 2 the following winter. Once could use footholds in Cal, trap the public lands in AZ, run row in NE without landowner permission. Will just have to enjoy what is left, how it is left
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