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Post by arcman on Mar 2, 2011 17:39:15 GMT -6
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Post by dfox on Mar 2, 2011 17:42:21 GMT -6
sounds reasonable to me
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Post by Eric Rector on Mar 2, 2011 18:06:21 GMT -6
Wonder if they pass it at the next meeting in March, if it would apply to this season still
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Post by LLLTrapper on Mar 2, 2011 19:26:29 GMT -6
What is that about taking a furbearer by vehicle? LLL
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Post by dfox on Mar 2, 2011 19:51:35 GMT -6
the last sentence he is talking about .guess you can't swerve to hit em!
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Post by Kelly on Mar 2, 2011 19:52:54 GMT -6
Read the blue link in the first post. The last line of which says, the following, "The amendments also make it illegal to use a motor vehicle to take furbearing animals."
What is this all about-anyone know?
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Post by BigT on Mar 2, 2011 20:07:30 GMT -6
maybe running coyotes?
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Post by catting on Mar 2, 2011 20:08:57 GMT -6
who knows for sure, I am more happy about the bumping of cats to 350 and otters to 650 with a limit of 3 per trapper, glad to see the DNR using sound management to help the trappers out, also moving the beav season back to April15.
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Post by ~ADC~ on Mar 2, 2011 20:14:17 GMT -6
who knows for sure, I am more happy about the bumping of cats to 350 and otters to 650 with a limit of 3 per trapper, glad to see the DNR using sound management to help the trappers out, also moving the beav season back to April15. No me! Not IF we are giving up something to get it! I don't catch bobcats or otters but I pick up roadkills and use a truck to hunt coyotes. ~ADC~
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Post by arcman on Mar 2, 2011 20:26:20 GMT -6
I didn't even see the sentence about using motor vehicles in the amendment until someone pointed it out. Not sure what it means. I sent an email to Wildlife Bureau Chief, Dale Garner. email: dale.garner@dnr.iowa.gov
and asked him to clarify that part of the amendment.
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Post by Eric Rector on Mar 2, 2011 20:39:56 GMT -6
who knows for sure, I am more happy about the bumping of cats to 350 and otters to 650 with a limit of 3 per trapper, glad to see the DNR using sound management to help the trappers out, also moving the beav season back to April15. This is just on the agenda to discuss, not passed yet
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Post by cody13 on Mar 2, 2011 20:39:57 GMT -6
As long as its not your vehicle hitting it, you can pick it up. Thats how I interpret that one
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Post by arcman on Mar 2, 2011 22:06:06 GMT -6
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Post by hvtrapper on Mar 3, 2011 5:17:49 GMT -6
If you have questions or comments on either of these two proposals I suggest you find the nearest NRC meeting and attend. I question the clarity of the amendment regarding the use of motor vehicles to take furbearers. I, too, pick up road kill and would not like to see this outlawed. A waste of resources to let them decay in a road ditch. And, no, I don't want to call for a permit like you have to for deer.
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Post by TexA on Mar 3, 2011 6:38:44 GMT -6
Some CLAIRIFICATION is definitely needed for that last sentence.
If it is left up to the Officer, it could mean you couldn't even drive your vehicle (of any kind) out to/on your line. No trucks, cars, 4x4s etc etc etc........
That wouldn't be a good thing, they could just about stop trapping altogether that way..........
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Post by LLLTrapper on Mar 3, 2011 7:02:35 GMT -6
I just can't understand why they always throw things in while no one is looking. You really have to pay attention or lose something! LLL
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Post by iayogi17 on Mar 3, 2011 7:48:29 GMT -6
next NRC meeting will be March 10 in Des Moines
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Post by iayogi17 on Mar 3, 2011 7:50:25 GMT -6
For immediate release: march 2, 2011
For more information, contact Melissa Speed, Iowa Department of Natural Resources, at 515-281-8650.
Natural Resource Commission to meet march 10 IN DES MOINES
DES MOINES – The Natural Resource Commission (NRC) of the Iowa Department of Natural Resources will meet at 9:30 a.m., March 10, in the fourth floor conference room, Wallace State Office Building, in Des Moines.
The meeting is open to the public.
Members of the NRC are Kim Francisco, Elizabeth Garst, Gregory Drees, Janelle Rettig, Tammi Kircher, Dennis Schemmel and Margo Underwood. The Director of the DNR is Roger Lande.
The following is the agenda for the March meeting.
Approve Agenda Consent Agenda (*within agenda indicates proposed consent agenda item) · Rock Creek Lake State Park, Jasper County – Water Control Structures
· Lake Darling State Park, Washington County – Consultant Contract for the Inspection of the Dam and Spillways
· Big Creek State Park Beach Site Plan
· South Bear Creek, Winneshiek County - Werges
· Management Agreement – Wapello County Conservation and Department of Corrections
· USDA Rural Development Grant – Brushy Creek State Recreational Area
· Final Rule – Chapter 45, Boat Motor Regulations
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 51, Game Management Areas
Approve Minutes of February 10 Meeting Director and Deputy Director Remarks Public Participation Honey Creek Resort State Park Update Construction Items · *Rock Creek Lake State Park, Jasper County – Water Control Structures
· Riverton Wildlife Area, Fremont County – Flood Repairs and PCC Paving
· Big Spring Fish Hatchery, Clayton County – Maintenance Building Construction
· Volga River Recreation Area, Fayette County – PCC Paving
· Honey Creek Resort State Park, Appanoose County – Honey Creek Interpretive Center
Professional Services Contact – Delivery Order Approval · Desjardins Renewable Project
· *Lake Darling State Park, Washington County – Consultant Contract for the Inspection of the Dam and Spillways
· *Big Creek State Park Beach Site Plan
Small Construction Projects Contracts · Land Acquisition Projects
· *South Bear Creek, Winneshiek County – Werges
· Lizard Lake Wildlife Management Area, Pocahontas County - Post
· Contract with Ducks Unlimited for the Construction of a Spillway/Fish Barrier at Lizard Lake (Pocahontas County)
· Land Management Projects
· Lake Petocka Park, Polk County – City of Bondurant
· Mississippi River Chapter 18 Lease, Scott County – Cargill Inc.
· *Management Agreement – Wapello County Conservation Board and Department of Corrections
· Water Navigation Permit – Sunny Brae Golf Course Footbridge
· Five Island Lake Access, Palo Alto County – Boundary Encroachment
· Fish Habitat Promotion with Local Entities Program Grant Review
· *USDA Rural Development Grant – Brushy Creek State Recreation Area
· *Final Rule – Chapter 45, Boat Motor Regulations
· *Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 51, Game Management Areas
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 52, Wildlife Refuges
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 91, Waterfowl and Coot Hunting Seasons
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 94, Nonresident Deer Hunting
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 96, Pheasant, Quail, and Gray Partridge Seasons
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 97, Common Snipe, Virginia Rail and Sora, Woodcock and Ruffed Grouse Hunting Seasons
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 98, Wild Turkey Spring Hunting
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 106, Deer Hunting by Residents
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 107, Rabbit and Squirrel Hunting
· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 108, Mink, Muskrat, Raccoon, Badger, Opossum, Weasel, Striped Skunk, Fox (Red and Gray), Beaver, Coyote, River Otter, Bobcat, Gray (Timber) Wolf and Spotted Skunk Seasons· Notice of Intended Action – Chapter 109, Groundhog Season
· Donations
· General Discussion
· Upcoming NRC Meeting
· April 13, Honey Creek Resort State Park, Appanoose County
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Post by Eric Rector on Mar 3, 2011 14:02:48 GMT -6
It sets the rule similar to deer, turkey and waterfowl, reference not being able to shoot furbearers from a moving or stationary vehicle. Thats it, does not affect the picking up of roadkill during the season.
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Post by trapping24 on Mar 3, 2011 14:50:27 GMT -6
What a joke if they pass that law about not using a motor vehicle thats pretty lame!!! That would make the law so you can't run coyotes with trucks! I knew it was gonna come up sooner or later! There is no reason for that law what so ever that is just somthing eles they can wright tickets for!!!
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Post by iayogi17 on Mar 3, 2011 15:45:53 GMT -6
Emailed Vince and he has no clue on where that came from
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Post by LLLTrapper on Mar 3, 2011 15:59:56 GMT -6
Eey yea LLL
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Post by Eric Rector on Mar 3, 2011 16:18:26 GMT -6
I asked the local CO and he said it was to bring the rules and regs in line with deer, turkey, and waterfowl hunting and the use of vehicles in response to the unintended consequences of the new CCW. Driving around with loaded firearms because now "I" have a concealed weapons permit and "it" allows me to do so mentality. Shooting from a moving vehicle, etc. etc. As to why or who injected it in there I don't know.
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Post by trapping24 on Mar 3, 2011 16:56:43 GMT -6
What a joke they think by passing the law that you can't use a motor vehicle to hunt that its gonna stop the people who are going to shoot deer and whatever eles!!! The people that are going to do such things like that dont care what the law says! I know no body asked me for my input but if you ask me thats a pretty law!!!
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Post by Eric Rector on Mar 3, 2011 17:59:48 GMT -6
I know no body asked me for my input but if you ask me thats a pretty law!!! Last I knew, anyone can go down to the Natural Resource Committee Meeting and voice their concerns
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Post by roosterk0031 on Mar 3, 2011 20:16:44 GMT -6
It's all about the CO being able to ticket the permit carrier from hunting out the window of a truck. I went to the bar last weekend, everyone I talk to has a permit now just so they can't get tickets. It's just to give the CO a chance of busting road hunters.
Currently a permit holders can chase them down the road muzzles sticking out the window and until the CO see's them shooting from the ROW it's legal, if it passes you have to get clear of the truck before opening fire.
No it's not going to stop very many people, just relevel the field.
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Post by x-demoman on Mar 3, 2011 20:27:08 GMT -6
Very good explaination Eric. I talked to the office in Des Moines today. The conversation was pretty much along the lines you discussed.
I guess it takes all kinds, but IMO it is a verrry stupid person who needs to shoot out the window of a vehicle. Someone said the bar people talked about getting their permit so they could shoot out of the window. Well that is the type of person the laws are made for. Sure I know you can't fix or legislate stupid away. Laws are not made for the lawbiding majority but the few idiots in all walks.
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Post by ~ADC~ on Mar 3, 2011 20:36:18 GMT -6
I asked the local CO and he said it was to bring the rules and regs in line with deer, turkey, and waterfowl hunting and the use of vehicles in response to the unintended consequences of the new CCW. Driving around with loaded firearms because now "I" have a concealed weapons permit and "it" allows me to do so mentality. Shooting from a moving vehicle, etc. etc. As to why or who injected it in there I don't know. New CCW? I thought you could always carry loaded guns of any type with your CCW unless it was marked specifically for handguns only. Correct? ~ADC~
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Post by ~ADC~ on Mar 3, 2011 20:44:04 GMT -6
Seems to me there are lots of rules and laws and such being put in place to head off problems that may not even exist. In regards to the new CCW, I see a lot of concerns and worries about stuff that most likely will never be an actual problem. Some need to relax and see what happens, then react. There is no good way to defend against what "could" happen. ~ADC~
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Post by Eric Rector on Mar 3, 2011 20:44:13 GMT -6
I think there wasn't enough of them out there Jayme that it was an issue before or even thought of. The stories that I hear about are of the guys riding in the back of trucks through the CRP fieilds shooting pheasants and whatever moved. The legislature was told that this new law would create a massive issue with guys riding around with long guns, shooting from the roadway, etc, etc. and they refused to correct the issue within the legislation before they passed it. Now you have the DNR coming from the backside to correct the problem. Maybe the sheriffs did know what they were doing in refusing some people from getting a permit
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