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Post by ~ADC~ on Jun 20, 2009 9:55:14 GMT -6
...of season.
"Limit pre-staking in the Road Right of Ways to two (2)
weeks prior to the opening day of trapping season and to
remove ALL equipment from the road right of ways on the
last day of trapping season."
What day is that? Jan 31 or April 1st?
~ADC~
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Post by jasonfitz on Jun 20, 2009 11:19:42 GMT -6
that is a good question!
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Post by Bankrunner on Jun 20, 2009 14:20:01 GMT -6
Probably depends on what you are trapping. Coon, fox, coyote, etc = Jan. 31 and beaver = April 1.
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Post by jjdavis on Jun 20, 2009 19:06:41 GMT -6
I would have to say after the thaw all kill poles , stakes etc. should be pulled we all know how hard it is to pull frozen stakes out of the ground . If snares are still attached they should be closed so nothing can get caught in them . I had to do that in a few places this year because i buried the stake clean into the ground.
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Post by x-demoman on Jun 20, 2009 19:45:49 GMT -6
In the discussions with the DNR the last day of trapping season would be at the end of the longest open season. Last year that would have been mid night April 1. Frozen ground, floods, snow, laziness, forgetfullyness and all other excusses will not fly. Like Buckfreak says you could be ticketed and probably should be. The ball is in our court now to prove or disprove this is a viable alternative to a total ban on pre staking in the right of ways.
Gene
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Post by k9 on Jun 20, 2009 19:52:06 GMT -6
Kill poles can usually be whacked with a hammer and will come out with a vice grip in frozen conditions.
What gets me is the floodwaters. I have a #4 double longspring in the Iowa River right now that I doubt I will ever get back. The good thing is, such flood waters will consistently render the trap inoperable and snapped off, and pull downstream as far as the chain will allow. I will get down there with a rake as soon as the water levels get down to where they were last fall, but right now its impossible. Been impossible all spring for that matter.
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Post by 4fur on Jun 20, 2009 19:56:09 GMT -6
Good question ADC. Jason S. spoke a little on the subject at Gene's and said any CO could understand not retrieving sets in a timely manner because of life threatening weather. I think most kill pole users are done by mid December which should give them ample opportunities to pull the stakes by Feb. 1. If you're permanently disabling a snare or removing it from the stake you may as well jack the stake out of the frost while your there IMO.
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Post by x-demoman on Jun 20, 2009 20:02:13 GMT -6
Removal at the end of the season is a very important aspect of this change. It may be a real pain and challenge but that is one of the issues that fueled this controversy. If we can clean up this part that will be a great benefit.
Gene
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Post by BigT on Jun 21, 2009 8:36:22 GMT -6
Ya up here in the flat land 1 inch of snow made some 10 foot drifts if you can believe it. A couple days later we had a warm spell and 1 fott water was 10 foot water. No chance in hell to recover traps after that till the spring!
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Post by 4fur on Jun 21, 2009 9:45:35 GMT -6
Jan. 31st this year was 55* and 23* for high and low temps. Even though I left the house at 3:30 a.m. I wasn't able to retrieve all 50 some traps I had out because it got too greasy to get back into sections about 10 o'clock. Most of these were canine traps on 30" stakes in 31" of frost.  I planned my route to get everything checked and either disabled or pulled but still had 11 disabled traps that I mapped and retrieved the first week in March. The new law will definitely change my trapline management and, in essence, shorten my season by about a week which is cool with me. By late January, most of our Iowa furbearers' pelts are going to heck and are breeding, too. |
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Post by Scott W. on Jun 21, 2009 11:15:41 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, this new rule does not apply to private land. If you can get them disabled, but have to leave them lay, that's between you and the landowner. Same with actually prestaking ahead of season. Scott
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I planned my route to get everything checked and either disabled or pulled but still had 11 disabled traps that I mapped and retrieved the first week in March. The new law will definitely change my trapline management and, in essence, shorten my season by about a week which is cool with me. By late January, most of our Iowa furbearers' pelts are going to heck and are breeding, too. 