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Post by driver on Mar 5, 2009 18:09:11 GMT -6
Hey guys been a lurker for awhile just lately have I been posting. Got a few ?s, I know the basics just wanting to know of any hidden ROW laws that might not be easy to pick out. Next year will be my first for it, so any help will be great.
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Post by iayogi17 on Mar 5, 2009 18:18:35 GMT -6
thick skin and push on
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Post by coontrapper on Mar 5, 2009 18:52:34 GMT -6
Can't be closer than 5' to fence.
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Post by iayogi17 on Mar 5, 2009 19:00:55 GMT -6
Can't be closer than 5' to fence. with coni's, snare can't touch the fence when pulled. if you have any ?s call your CO in each county you trap(they differ on some things aka grey ruling) . he would be the one writing the tickets. |
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Post by driver on Mar 5, 2009 19:17:58 GMT -6
thanks yogi anyone else?
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Post by minnow on Mar 5, 2009 20:28:30 GMT -6
Heres one over looked. If the land owner owns both side of the road you may need his permission to trap in the ROW.
I skip all cattle crossing locations (where they pass under the road) in the ROW If you set this location you'll need permission. (Tresspassing)
Make sure you maintain loss of traps & turn them in to the DNR officer in the county you trap.
You should visit with the DNR office before you start trapping ROW. Untill he gets to know your style of trapping . You'll want to be low to no maintance for him.
Really before you start trapping the ROW make sure you understand all ROW rules before doing so. Keep in mind you'll now be in the eye of the public. The ROW is a privledge to trap & hunt, respect it with high standards.
Great luck trapping in ROW.
Minnow
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Post by 4fur on Mar 5, 2009 20:37:51 GMT -6
There are some laws which concern discharging firearms. Can't shoot from the roadway, for instance. "Roadway" includes the shoulder of the road or highway. You also are prohibited from discharging a firearm within 200 yards of a building inhabited by people or domestic livestock or a feedlot. Animals gazing on pasture, corn stalks, etc. are NOT considered to be in a "feedlot." 200 yards from a house is really a little deceiving because It is really 200 yards from the mailbox of an inhabited dwelling or the dwelling itself, which ever is closer.
Snares and conibears also have the 200 yard restriction from the mailbox of an inhabited dwelling or the dwelling itself, which ever is closer. Both restrictions are waved if you have permission from the inhabitants within 200 yards for snares, conibears and firearms. But this means ALL inhabitants within the 200 yards, not just one family.
I think it's great your checking the laws, Driver. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Trapping the ROW requires strict compliance of the law because violations are seen by your competition, a CO and the general public. There are some unwritten laws concerning etiquette that are extremely important also, IMO.
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Post by minnow on Mar 5, 2009 20:42:22 GMT -6
Good point on the ethic side 4Fur. Its a whole new topic.
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Post by justwannano on Mar 5, 2009 22:56:16 GMT -6
Heres one over looked. If the land owner owns both side of the road you may need his permission to trap in the ROW. I skip all cattle crossing locations (where they pass under the road) in the ROW If you set this location you'll need permission. (Tresspassing) Make sure you maintain loss of traps & turn them in to the DNR officer in the county you trap. You should visit with the DNR office before you start trapping ROW. Untill he gets to know your style of trapping . You'll want to be low to no maintance for him. Really before you start trapping the ROW make sure you understand all ROW rules before doing so. Keep in mind you'll now be in the eye of the public. The ROW is a privledge to trap & hunt, respect it with high standards. Great luck trapping in ROW. Minnow Q/ You should visit with the DNR office before you start trapping ROW. Untill he gets to know your style of trapping . You'll want to be low to no maintance for him. /Q LOL Not so sure about that. LOL We've been talkin about what the complainers (high maintenance)get for a month now. just |
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Post by minnow on Mar 6, 2009 9:08:45 GMT -6
Your right Just, I should of wrote what type of trapper or person you are. If you have a land owner or anybody complain about you. I would think you would want that DNR officer to say he's one of good trappers rather that Yeah he not a good trapper. Just because you visit with your DNR officer does not mean you have to be complaining to them. Our office here like to here some good trapping & hunting stories.
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Post by chrisf on Mar 6, 2009 9:09:08 GMT -6
I feel the need to clarify a few points on this topic.
There is no such permission required, even if the landowner owns both sides of the road. I would certainly by-pass any area where the landowner is running livestock under the roadway, as there are always possible civil problems that could come up in the event an animal is caught, but legally there is no permission required.
As far as shooting around roadways, the only thing that should affect trappers is the discharging of rifles and handguns from or across the public highway, which is fence to fence. In the absense of a fence, use your best judgement as to where the fence should be. A rifle cannot be discharged anywhere from within or across any part of this area. I would like to see the day where there is an exception for dispatching trapped furbearers with a .22 rifle within the right of way, but as it stands now, it is unfortunately illegal. A handgun may be discharged within the right of way, provided it is not discharged from or across any portion of the roadway, which is that portion that is maintained for vehicles to travel on. The roadway includes the pavement and shoulder, or on a gravel or dirt road, it is the part the maintainer hits. A handgun may legally be fired in the rest of the right of way, which is the area between the roadway and fence.
To legally discharge any firearm, you must be 200yards from a building inhabited by people or domestic livestock or a feedlot unless the owner has given consent to do so. This applies to both right of ways, and private property. The driveway and mailbox has nothing to do with the area you can/can't discharge a firearm. It is the actual structure or feedlot that is the concern.
Snares and conibears set within the ROW have to be 200yds from buildings inhabited by humans, and the entry of a drive serving the residence. The location of both of these need to be taken into consideration. Again, the mailbox may serve as a reference point when range-finding a driveway, but it has no actual bearing on the distance itself. The owner can also give consent to set closer. This does not apply to submerged conibears, or snares set with at least one-half of the loop underwater. Foothold and cage traps have no distance restriction, but this is one of those areas where personal ethics, or as 4fur mentioned "some unwritten laws concerning etiquette that are extremely important also" really come into play. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is a good idea to set it there.
As mentioned earlier, conibears must be 5 feet from any fence, and snares cannot touch the fence when fully extended.
I hope this helps to clarify a few points.
cf
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Post by minnow on Mar 6, 2009 9:15:51 GMT -6
Thanks ChrisF for clearing that up on the owner owning both sides of the road. I'll pass this on.
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Post by 4fur on Mar 6, 2009 10:07:20 GMT -6
Thank you very much, Chris!  |
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Post by centraliowa (ryan) on Mar 6, 2009 11:14:04 GMT -6
thank you chris!
driver, as all ready said have thick skin. some ole timers out there think they own the ditch. some of the city folks that bought their acreage also think they own the row. when i come across these types i simply ask them if they would like to meet me at the DNR officers house that day and he can sort it out. most times they get mad and drive off. most people i run across while trapping the row are happy that i am removing the coon.
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Post by driver on Mar 6, 2009 11:58:42 GMT -6
thank you to everyone ive read the laws and my main concern was the distance from driveways and houses but i think that was cleared up very well thanks again
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Post by stomper on Mar 8, 2009 11:00:25 GMT -6
True you can not fire a 22 cal rifle in right of way. But you can use a 22 cal pistol legally according to the CO here in Dubuque county.
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Post by chrisf on Mar 8, 2009 22:32:18 GMT -6
True you can not fire a 22 cal rifle in right of way. But you can use a 22 cal pistol legally according to the CO here in Dubuque county.
The CO is correct Stomper. Keep in mind that as my post above indicates, it is unlawful to discharge the pistol from or across the roadway. The ditch is perfectly legal.
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Post by driver on Mar 9, 2009 12:40:09 GMT -6
True you can not fire a 22 cal rifle in right of way. But you can use a 22 cal pistol legally according to the CO here in Dubuque county.The CO is correct Stomper. Keep in mind that as my post above indicates, it is unlawful to discharge the pistol from or across the roadway. The ditch is perfectly legal. cf so what is the difference between a pistol and a rifle in this situation |
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Post by dfox on Mar 9, 2009 13:01:35 GMT -6
Rifle vs pistol is the difference, does not matter the caliber. The rules explicititly state you cannot discharge a rifle from the roadway, says nothing about a pistol.
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