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Post by muskrat72 on Jan 23, 2014 7:02:07 GMT -6
How does a dp compare to cubbies, baited with fish, late in the season? Would dp be as equally inefficient or do they have a higher catch ratio?
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Post by hvtrapper on Jan 23, 2014 7:09:30 GMT -6
I don't bait with carcass fish on dry land sets, but D/P's have much higher catch rate for me over buckets.
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Post by hillbillyken on Jan 23, 2014 7:38:27 GMT -6
I've had great success with dp's in cold weather but don't like the fact that their paws freeze in the trap....anyone know how to control this?
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Post by notimeforit on Jan 23, 2014 8:29:10 GMT -6
I've had great success with dp's in cold weather but don't like the fact that their paws freeze in the trap....anyone know how to control this? Trap in Florida?? I agree with you My limited experience is that the foot freezes and is a time consuming effort to get out. |
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Post by hillbillyken on Jan 23, 2014 8:42:59 GMT -6
I've had great success with dp's in cold weather but don't like the fact that their paws freeze in the trap....anyone know how to control this? Trap in Florida?? I agree with you My limited experience is that the foot freezes and is a time consuming effort to get out. what I have do is use cable stakes and just open the j hook and put a new trap on the cable stake......found sometimes that paw just won't come out. |
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 23, 2014 9:50:28 GMT -6
After dispatch, if you can compress the spring, stand on the coons back foot and pull hard while compressing the spring, they usually come right out. (don't fall over backwards, lol) If this don't work swap out traps. You can cut off the coon and put the frozen trap/foot in the truck cab to thaw if you need the trap again soon.
As for if DP's are more effective, I'd say its 6 of one, half a dozen of the other vs. bucket cubbies. If set on the same location I bet you'd get about a 50/50 split.
I'm seriously thinking of painting some snares white and seeing how I can do in them open trails in the snow, probably next year. I think they will work great, just never got around to testing them.
~ADC~
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Post by hillbillyken on Jan 23, 2014 9:55:45 GMT -6
Jayme, Lt. Gray from tman says that painting has no effect because he says NOTHING is whiter then snow.....what's your take on this
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 23, 2014 10:06:13 GMT -6
Jayme, Lt. Gray from tman says that painting has no effect because he says NOTHING is whiter then snow.....what's your take on this LT says a few things I don't agree with, this is one of them, but he's a good snareman and a good guy. I just think he puts too much thought into it. White snares blend into snowy conditions,,, ever see a guy in a snowy field with all white clothes to stalk a fox or coyote? Its the same idea. You may be able to see it but not very well, especially at night. It has to help. ~ADC~ |
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Post by blaine on Jan 23, 2014 17:00:51 GMT -6
I've had great success with dp's in cold weather but don't like the fact that their paws freeze in the trap....anyone know how to control this? put a hand warmer in the bottom of them LOL |
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Post by maddog3355 on Jan 24, 2014 10:31:55 GMT -6
How do you guys keep your dog proofs from freezing in the ground? I've lost one this year to a wring off and had several more just waiting on my they couldn't move. I've tried salt and calcium chloride but it don't penetrate the ground the stabilizer still freezes down.
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Post by bucks on Jan 24, 2014 10:55:07 GMT -6
I have better luck with dog proofs, buckets are fragile in this cold, wood cubbies are way better IMO. Give them a full menu to choose from on either one makes a huge difference.
I like to use a cordless drill, and masonry bit to drill through frost for stabilizer, make sure u oversize it some. Or cement blocks on top of a piece of wood and put you dp into wood, and stake to block, or a old tire laying around works well. I only have z-traps so other brands with different stakes might need different methods. I tried smoked oysters this year in dp's, and they seemed to work well, a can is $1.00, and if mixed with other bait goes farther than u think, puts off a good smoked fish smell. I was using them up till the first week of dec. and did not have any freezing issues, might b a little different now, they are packed in some kind of oil, I don't think they will freeze. If. I wasn't stuffing my gullet with marshmallows I would probably be eating oysters.
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Post by hvtrapper on Jan 25, 2014 9:08:35 GMT -6
How do you guys keep your dog proofs from freezing in the ground? I've lost one this year to a wring off and had several more just waiting on my they couldn't move. I've tried salt and calcium chloride but it don't penetrate the ground the stabilizer still freezes down. I don't put the stabilizers into the ground under these conditions preferring to tie the body of the D/P to a sapling next to the trail using zip tie or butcher's twine. Have only had 1 coon fail to break loose the trap so it can swivel properly. Trap is secured to the same tree with a piece of A/C cable and a spring clip. In open areas I tie the trap body to a re-bar trap stake left out of the ground 6-8 inches. Stake is driven through calvary picket pin swivel and D/P attached to the swivel. |
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Post by Scott W. on Jan 26, 2014 7:02:32 GMT -6
I've asked Newt Sterling about the white snare deal too. He says it doesn't make a difference, and he sells the stuff to make it happen. Is he right or wrong? I don't know. But he gave what in his mind was an honest answer.
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Post by riverbandit on Jan 26, 2014 9:43:28 GMT -6
I gave the white snares a try many years ago and had poor results.
Gary Jepson explained it to me this way. The white snare will actually stick out to the approaching animal. Down at their level, they see a sky back drop, trees, or grass and brush, making the white snare stick out like a sore thumb.
A slightly dark brown has worked the best for me.
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Post by x-demoman on Jan 26, 2014 18:16:21 GMT -6
That is exactly what Gary told me last weekend. Said he learned a valuable lesson with white painted snares.
Gene
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Post by MMc on Jan 26, 2014 19:45:06 GMT -6
My experience. Don't waste the paint.
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Post by TitoBoy on Jan 26, 2014 19:53:02 GMT -6
Has anybody tried glow in the dark paint ? I was thinking of making caps for DP traps and paint them with glow in the dark. If anyone tried it let me know if it works?
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Post by ~ADC~ on Jan 26, 2014 19:57:32 GMT -6
I gave the white snares a try many years ago and had poor results. Gary Jepson explained it to me this way. The white snare will actually stick out to the approaching animal. Down at their level, they see a sky back drop, trees, or grass and brush, making the white snare stick out like a sore thumb. A slightly dark brown has worked the best for me.  I'll try it for myself and see if I get similar results.  ~ADC~ |
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Post by ntg2 on Jan 26, 2014 20:12:59 GMT -6
Someone is making the convention circuit with the glow products. If I remember right he had caps and bait. I'm sure someone on the site can point you in the right direction for at lest a few ideas.
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Post by x-demoman on Jan 26, 2014 21:43:02 GMT -6
Kendall with NO BS has a glow in the dark bait. He is on this site
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Post by hillbillyken on Jan 27, 2014 8:27:51 GMT -6
Kendall with NO BS has a glow in the dark bait. He is on this site anyone can make this, all you need to do is buy some phosphorescent powder and add it to your paste bait.....google phosphorescent powder and lots of places you can buy it pops up. I don't know if the bait stays glowing for long, I guess a guy would have to try it at home before trying it in the field.....think it more of a gimmick then anything. |
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