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Post by Coydog on Jul 23, 2013 14:39:36 GMT -6
Those that were kind enough to squirm through Bruce and my coyote discussion over at Beaman, one of the topics that come up was stalling out coyotes. Now, the following pictures are all from the same location, and from the pictures you will see that this was probably a good enough spot that a stall out or eye grabber may not have been needed, but I am sure you will get the idea of what we were talking about by the photos. Location is where the farmer had been tiling a crick, and also putting in new fence. In the pictures I have 4 traps set around the pelvic bone. This picture is the same coyote, but if you look to the right and down a little there is another set with a T-bone. The dirt "hump" up and to the right of the coyote has a set, and above the coyote off the point of the dirt pile point there is a trap as well. The pelvic bone has no trap. Here are a few more pictures to show how this worked out. One in the T-Bone, remade from a badger caught the day before. One on the dirt hump. Another angle of the location another day with a fox on the dirt pile point, and if you look behind him another coyote off the hump. And the last one is not the best picture, but it is a really nice pale Iowa coyote caught off the remake where the fox was caught. Hope this helps put some visual aid to what we discussed during the get together. Again, doesnt have to be big bones, and is not always needed, but if you are in one of those spots and you just want to slow them down, its worth a shot.
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Post by bogio on Jul 24, 2013 13:43:53 GMT -6
How many days did you stay there for a total take of how many animals?
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Post by Coydog on Jul 24, 2013 15:02:36 GMT -6
I think I was in there for a week and a half, maybe 2. Caught 5 coyotes, 2 fox, a badger and a few coon. Pulled out the day I caught the slick tail, barely made it out, pretty muddy wet snow.
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Post by bogio on Jul 24, 2013 19:06:16 GMT -6
Did they show up one by one over the course of that time span or in more of a brief flurry of activity?
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Post by riverbandit on Jul 24, 2013 19:48:20 GMT -6
Good stall outs always seem to have multiple features such as a hay field bordering crops that all meet at a large tree near a river just as an example. They also seem to occur at locations on or near a territorial boundary.
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Post by braveheart on Jul 25, 2013 4:38:16 GMT -6
Nice!!!Nothing like big Salient feature.Also 3 traps to a hot spot min.Great pictures!!!
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Post by Coydog on Jul 25, 2013 6:52:13 GMT -6
Bogio,
It was a pretty steady location, most of the action was in the first week, then it went dead a few days, then the fox/coyote double hit so I decided to leave them in longer. Picked up a couple more coon, another fox and the last coyote the day I pulled them out. Had another snow a few days later and seen more tracks headed into the section, but never made it back in again.
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Post by bogio on Jul 27, 2013 21:42:28 GMT -6
Looks like a big permanent pasture. What was bringing them here and would you have set it up if the tiling work had not presented that large torn up area.
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Post by Coydog on Jul 29, 2013 11:22:00 GMT -6
I set this location every year. Before they tore it up it was where 2 cricks met with a large deep pool of water. Also had some big piles of dirt and rocks. The Crick that runs North/South is a long running travel way that intersected another small crick running east/west. It was a feature on the travel ways that had always shown a lot of milling sign. Good water source and crossing. I would guess its features were the attraction along the travel way. The pasture itself has had a few dead cows through the years also in this general area as well. Across the road to the north is a large hidden pond/lake with a lot of cover and probably a good food source which is where I guess they going and coming from, but I cant get permission in there. To the south is more timber patches and crp.
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Post by bogio on Jul 29, 2013 14:29:22 GMT -6
Has your catch there in past years been consistent with what is was after the dirt work or did that enhance the area increasing your catch?
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Post by Coydog on Jul 29, 2013 18:29:42 GMT -6
Thinking back, yes, its been a pretty consistent location. I'd like to think the fresh dirt work enhanced it, or at least it made it more appealing to me.
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Post by dj on Jul 30, 2013 15:15:06 GMT -6
Coydog do you have a preference for what to use for stalling coyotes in an area? Have you tried charred wood/large rock etc. I've had mixed results using bones and charred wood on grass waterways that extend out into large ag fields (might just be me using them in wrong locations).
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Post by Coydog on Jul 31, 2013 14:10:18 GMT -6
Coydog do you have a preference for what to use for stalling coyotes in an area? Have you tried charred wood/large rock etc. I've had mixed results using bones and charred wood on grass waterways that extend out into large ag fields (might just be me using them in wrong locations).
I understand what you are asking I believe, and Ill do my best to try and answer, but first off, I am not on here claiming to be Joe Coyote trapper, I have a looooong way to go before I even earn a J, but Ill do my best to explain what I do or attempt to do on certain locations.
A lot of times I do my best to focus on a location where I have multiple travelways intersecting.Preferably long running travelways that dont "dean end". These could be like the location shown above, or it may only be intersecting fence rows in a bean field, a crick and a fence row, multiple cattle trails leading to a crossing, the list can go on and on. If sign shows that the coyotes are not just passing through, but milling around, you find a few piles of crap etc, I would assume Im on a location that they are already "stalling" out, maybe even a boundary which would be great! Now depending on this locations features, I may or may not use anything that I would condider an eye grabber like the pelvic above. If its narrowed down enough and you work the wind you shouldnt have any problem getting them to work a dirt hole, but set more than 1 trap. Now if Im on a location that I know coyotes are traveling through, but may not be really milling, or maybe there really isnt much for features like a flat bean field with an intersection, thats when I like to get something visible out there that stands out. It could be a cow skull, pile of dirt, pile of bean chaff, or even just make a couple big obnoxious dirt holes.. If Im using an object like a skull, I wont set a trap by the skull, never had a lot of luck doing that, but set around it say 15-20 feet away. A big chunk of burnt wood would work, the key in my mind is it needs to stand out. Not necessarily trying to use these objects as a backing to a set, rather something to slow them down and get them circling and milling around.
Again, I would prefer to get in on locations that already show that they are milling, but if not, Ill try and create one on travelways.
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Post by dj on Jul 31, 2013 15:02:28 GMT -6
Coydog do you have a preference for what to use for stalling coyotes in an area? Have you tried charred wood/large rock etc. I've had mixed results using bones and charred wood on grass waterways that extend out into large ag fields (might just be me using them in wrong locations). I understand what you are asking I believe, and Ill do my best to try and answer, but first off, I am not on here claiming to be Joe Coyote trapper, I have a looooong way to go before I even earn a J, but Ill do my best to explain what I do or attempt to do on certain locations. A lot of times I do my best to focus on a location where I have multiple travelways intersecting.Preferably long running travelways that dont "dean end". These could be like the location shown above, or it may only be intersecting fence rows in a bean field, a crick and a fence row, multiple cattle trails leading to a crossing, the list can go on and on. If sign shows that the coyotes are not just passing through, but milling around, you find a few piles of crap etc, I would assume Im on a location that they are already "stalling" out, maybe even a boundary which would be great! Now depending on this locations features, I may or may not use anything that I would condider an eye grabber like the pelvic above. If its narrowed down enough and you work the wind you shouldnt have any problem getting them to work a dirt hole, but set more than 1 trap. Now if Im on a location that I know coyotes are traveling through, but may not be really milling, or maybe there really isnt much for features like a flat bean field with an intersection, thats when I like to get something visible out there that stands out. It could be a cow skull, pile of dirt, pile of bean chaff, or even just make a couple big obnoxious dirt holes.. If Im using an object like a skull, I wont set a trap by the skull, never had a lot of luck doing that, but set around it say 15-20 feet away. A big chunk of burnt wood would work, the key in my mind is it needs to stand out. Not necessarily trying to use these objects as a backing to a set, rather something to slow them down and get them circling and milling around. Again, I would prefer to get in on locations that already show that they are milling, but if not, Ill try and create one on travelways. Thanks for the reply! I always enjoy a good conversation about putting the cuff on coyotes. Been doing it for more than a few years now and still learn something new each season.
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Post by jlanduyt on Aug 4, 2013 11:00:37 GMT -6
Here are some pics I took today while out scout a new farm. While traveling along a mowed path on the property I came across an open area that had been cleared of all vegetation, not sure why it was there or what/who created it. I can only assume Yotes are traveling it (if I was a yote, I would it's just easy walking) so I placed a calf's skull I found earlier in the day at another farm to help "stall" a yote I dug up some earth and sifted some out in hopes of seeing a footprint or two. NO TRAP WAS BEDDED.
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