DP triggers

[motrapperjohn]

I will have tyo agree with ADC on this one, as I talked to the guy who had the dog. It was a bait issue, the dog was following them as they set traps and was caught while they watched. And this trap was a pull only trigger. Never say never! YOU MUST BE MINDFUL OF WHAT BAIT YOU USE AND WHERE ITS USED. I have said this a hundred times the first animal I ever caught in a griz was my cat (Tiger) with fish as bait.

[jlanduyt]

Well after hearing about a recent BMP study on DPs...I'm leaving them alone.

[justwannano]

Apr 16, 2013 19:43:42 GMT -6 jlanduyt said:

Well after hearing about a recent BMP study on DPs...I'm leaving them alone.

IMHO good idea.

You other guys might think along the lines of "Does making the trap P/P make it less dog proof."
just

[grinnergetter]

The DPS have their place just like every other trap we use. Be careful with all of them.

[~ADC~]

Right you are Don. On point, short and sweet.

ADC

[motrapperjohn]

What bmp study was that?

[blackhammer]

Apr 17, 2013 6:53:59 GMT -6 motrapperjohn said:

What bmp study was that?

If you going to mention a study. Facts please or the comment means nothing other than you apparently don't own dps.

[jlanduyt]

Xdeamon went to New Mexico recently for the FTA or NTA (can't remember which) and was there for a meeting on BMPs. He was saying at the last ITA BOD meeting that DP have a high rate of damage to the leg area, most notably leg breakage at the wrist.

I know most everyone has not experienced, but I'm having my suspicions about DPs now.

[blackhammer]

Apr 17, 2013 18:53:32 GMT -6 jlanduyt said:

Xdeamon went to New Mexico recently for the FTA or NTA (can't remember which) and was there for a meeting on BMPs. He was saying at the last ITA BOD meeting that DP have a high rate of damage to the leg area, most notably leg breakage at the wrist.

I know most everyone has not experienced, but I'm having my suspicions about DPs now.

That's surprising they have always been very foot friendly in my applications. When you have no losses and coon sleeping when you arrive it's as good as it get's for coon comfort. It's too bad they are pushing their findings in that direction. On our northern coon I can't image a better trap.

[4fur]

The first year I used DPs I gave them a thorough, season long work out. Of course they were all Grizz back then with the worst stabilizer manufactured for setting in freezing ground conditions. I have deleted all the graphic pictures I took from my Photo buckets in fear that an anti might hack in and find them. And they were not pretty.

I have said before that I strongly believe DPs are a good weather trap that will be hung in my shed come December in a typical year. These last two seasons were not typical, though.

Comparing a tube type DP catch with the stabilizer frozen in the ground is about like baiting a 220 with a pork chop and setting it in a dog pound at feeding time. It is the idiot setting the trap that is the problem, not the trap. In my experience, the only foot damage with a tube type DP was caused by inadequate swiveling which resulted from the trap being frozen into the ground by it's stabilizer.

[robertw]

From my observations the wrist breakage is a southern thing with smaller coon. I'm not witnessing it where I live and north like you do in the south.

[motrapperjohn]

From any study that I have ever heard of, and one that was done in my area and know one of those that did the trapping it was reported to be one of the most foot freindly traps on the market. Now with the race to see who can put the strongest spring in their trap, I can see where they might be some problems, especialy with the smaller coon like Robert said. Another problem I have seen is where people cable to trees or other entangelment type situations. That will cause problems everytime.

[riverbandit]

one would expect damage to be less on a smaller sized leg since the spring tension would be slightly lower due to the spring being compressed less on the smaller diameter wrist.

I've only witnessed any severe damage on our northern coon when the trap is held stationary in the ground and cant spin with the coon.

[4fur]

I have caught plenty of dinks in DPs with no foot damage but they were YOY juveniles without the strength of an adult coon. I suppose Robert's line of thinking is smaller Southern coon have smaller bones. And the weight of the trap becomes heavier in proportion to their body weight.

I wonder if they are using a 24 hour check in the BMP study?

[hvtrapper]

Entanglement after the catch! Always have to think about what will happen after you've caught the coon no matter what methods you use.

[blackhammer]

Apr 18, 2013 19:36:21 GMT -6 4fur said:

I have caught plenty of dinks in DPs with no foot damage but they were YOY juveniles without the strength of an adult coon. I suppose Robert's line of thinking is smaller Southern coon have smaller bones. And the weight of the trap becomes heavier in proportion to their body weight.

I wonder if they are using a 24 hour check in the BMP study?

I seriously doubt it would make much difference. The way I use them on disposable stakes with swivel away from any entanglement it just doesn't get any better.

[robertw]

Would be interested in knowing which states they were doing the trapping in and who the trappers were who tested them?

The trappers can definitely affect the results of s study like this. Here in Missouri their was a drastic difference between trappers on the results when they tested the 1 1/2 coils.

[TRapper]

exactly, way too many variables like what time of day trap was checked in, set location being stressful on the animal as far as livestock or human encounters, etc. etc.