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Post by feathhd on Feb 2, 2012 2:01:14 GMT -6
Should Iowa make a Constitutional amendment making it a right to Fish, Hunt and Trap?
Therefore, the Legislature intends that the citizens of Iowa have a right to
hunt, fish, Trap and take game, subject to the regulations and restrictions prescribed by general
law.
Yes or No
Answer
Thanks guys
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Post by dennisj on Feb 2, 2012 4:59:01 GMT -6
YES. the state made a good start when it made it illegal to interfear with hunting, trapping and fishing.  Dennis |
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Post by LLLTrapper on Feb 2, 2012 6:24:02 GMT -6
I think we should leave the legislature out of DNR matters. It already is a privilage. If you don't pay your child support or some other things you will be denied a license so I would say no. LLL
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Post by furman on Feb 2, 2012 8:14:52 GMT -6
YES ...that would be a very good idea
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Post by rob on Feb 2, 2012 8:32:55 GMT -6
I would have to say yes as long as it is subject to the regulations and restrictions prescribed by general law. If it is a right, it would be alot harder for activists to try and take our privledge away.
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Post by furman on Feb 2, 2012 8:45:08 GMT -6
this would be a very good thing...very good...there will come a time where outdoors men will be thankful that we have this on the books...and this would be the time to get it done with the gov. we got in place now
there will come a time where we will see a government that are antis and what to take out rights away
one of the best ideas i'v heard in a long time
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Post by Coydog on Feb 2, 2012 9:02:01 GMT -6
YES
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Post by coontrapper on Feb 2, 2012 9:56:51 GMT -6
Yes.
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Post by skunkboy on Feb 2, 2012 10:26:09 GMT -6
Is hunting, fishing, trapping a 'right' or a 'privilage'? A right is something that someone can't take away from you and a privilage is something earned and can be taken away. If my previous statement is true and LLL's statement is true, then it must be a privilage.
I kinda think it is an inherited right. You might earn the privilage to purchase a fishing, hunting or trapping license though. So, I guess I can agree with taking the privilage of purchasing a license away from some low life dead beats, though.
I guess it wouldn't hurt to have an amendment making hunting, fishing and trapping a right. But why stop there...lots of other inherited rights that could be included in an amendment...breathing air would be another one...just saying.
L8R...Ken
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Post by jdrogge on Feb 2, 2012 12:07:18 GMT -6
Yes
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Post by bullsnake on Feb 2, 2012 12:13:24 GMT -6
YES !!
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Post by justwannano on Feb 2, 2012 12:34:00 GMT -6
NO!!!
Too many lowlifes out there would abuse it.
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Post by Eric Rector on Feb 2, 2012 12:42:23 GMT -6
You darn betcha they should
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Post by centraliowa (ryan) on Feb 2, 2012 13:39:06 GMT -6
NO
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Post by coontrapper on Feb 2, 2012 13:44:23 GMT -6
IMO this will not be abused because rights still can be taken away... look at the right to vote or bear arms. Felons lose both of those rights.
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Post by jim blakley aka Gadget on Feb 2, 2012 15:17:21 GMT -6
We have such a Law in MN.
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Post by feathhd on Feb 2, 2012 17:39:48 GMT -6
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Post by furman on Feb 2, 2012 18:38:07 GMT -6
most don't have trapping in the wording....i seen only N Dakota and Wis.
the longer amendment the more gray area comes about...Wisconsin & North Dakota amendments look good
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Post by trapdog on Feb 2, 2012 20:42:20 GMT -6
YES
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Post by x-demoman on Feb 2, 2012 20:56:56 GMT -6
NO. With privileges comes responsibility's and accountability. We give away way too much.
Gene
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Post by feathhd on Feb 2, 2012 21:56:13 GMT -6
demoman it is hard to give away something if the anti's take it away from you dont you agree?
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Post by dspree on Feb 2, 2012 22:04:47 GMT -6
demoman it is hard to give away something if the anti's take it away from you dont you agree? I honestly don't believe that if it was in our constitution the antis won't try to take trapping away. Look at the second amendment, our government is always trying to take that "right" away. I have mixed feelings about this post, but right now I have to say no.. |
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Post by furman on Feb 2, 2012 22:05:43 GMT -6
What are we giving away with getting a amendment...it's protection from losing what we have
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Post by furman on Feb 2, 2012 22:10:32 GMT -6
demoman it is hard to give away something if the anti's take it away from you dont you agree? I honestly don't believe that if it was in our constitution the antis won't try to take trapping away. Look at the second amendment, our government is always trying to take that "right" away. I have mixed feelings about this post, but right now I have to say no.. Thank god we have the second amendment...if we didn't have that on our side where would we be now |
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Post by dspree on Feb 2, 2012 22:10:39 GMT -6
What are we giving away with getting a amendment...it's protection from losing what we have Like I said in the post above. Who says they can't take it away? |
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Post by furman on Feb 2, 2012 22:13:45 GMT -6
it's a tool to use to keep what we have....this is a good idea
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Post by feathhd on Feb 2, 2012 23:16:58 GMT -6
Correct furman:
I posted this the other day to see what the mood may be from Iowa sportsmen on this and if I should go forward in the pursuit of the Amendment or not.
I will let it run a while before I make a choice.
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Post by warrant36 on Feb 3, 2012 11:44:46 GMT -6
If it was a right, wouldn't that mean you'd have to do away with licenses and paying to hunt? And you also couldn't lose your license if you were caught poaching, ect.
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Post by rob on Feb 3, 2012 13:01:36 GMT -6
If it was a right, wouldn't that mean you'd have to do away with licenses and paying to hunt? And you also couldn't lose your license if you were caught poaching, ect. Probably be just like your right bear arms. If your deemed a hazard to yourself or others the right can be taken away, such as felons or someone declared mentally unfit. You would still have to be licensed to hunt. Pay to play |
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Post by feathhd on Feb 3, 2012 13:50:59 GMT -6
You would still have to abide by the rules and laws, regulations as outlined in the following.
Therefore, the Legislature intends that the citizens of Iowa have a right to
hunt, fish, Trap and take game, subject to the regulations and restrictions prescribed by general
law.
Penalties / violations etc are still subject to law as are the requirements of licenses / fees etc.
What it does is protect your present opportunties from ever being lost by those who seek at every measure to make it harder to hunt fish, trap or take wild game by lawful methods perscribed by law.
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