trapping row question

[cooner]

on state roads the row is alot furthor according to row sign then 33 ft. from centerline. on another post was said on most county roads is 33 ft. from centerline, how about a county hiway where no fence or poles and crops are not close because of ditch and you have a newer cement square culvert,aslong as you do not go past culvert and trap in culvert and go no furthor than wing walls should you be in row? you would think the county would owe the culvert and land by it up to end of culvert would be row?hard to look up some of this on tax id map

[justwannano]

I can't tell you the answer because the different countys may be different. Use your common sense. You can use power poles as markers where applicable. Also telephone pedestals.
Around here it generally isn't hard to distinguish where the farmer is careing for the land. If you cannot tell where the property line is on a particular property look for it on the property next door and set accordingly.Also most places around here leave the corner fence post as a marker when they take out fences.
I don't let it worry me too much but I also don't pull sneaky stuff.

I pulled up to a place that I had a mink set in the road ditch a couple of weeks ago. There were 2 guys in the creek who I mistook for trappers. They wern't. They were the owners looking for a tile end that had collapsed. I asked them about trapping the ditch and they said "I don't care what you do".

just

[bowkill82]

it is 33 ft from center of road im dealing with it rite now 4 days of studying and it reads the roa is 33 ft

[cooner]

the field being farmed by culvert is out a little ways from culvert,according to county beacon tax map in this spot it is 200 ft. from road to property.it is close to 4 lane state road but is county,you would think the culvert is in the row

[bowkill82]

call ur county engineer he will be able to tell u for sure just remember if u set it on private property u could be looking at a poaching charge and i own ground and we pay taxes to the middle of the road its weird

[TexA]

"we pay taxes to the middle of the road "

We ALL do......!.......

Where are you located ?

[bucks]

Each county is different, gravel roads, CO highways can differ. 99% of the time you can go off of the electric poles, telephone/fiber optic peds, by no means is that the legal description of R.O.W, but dam close. When in doubt ask farmer/land owner for permission, most times they don't care

[LLLTrapper]

My taxes pay for farmer subsidies but does that give me the right to tell farmers how or where to farm? That "pay taxes to the center of the road" is really a lame thing to say IMO LLL

[x-demoman]

I think if they check, they do not pay taxes to the middle of the road. That is a misconception most have. Taxes are not paid to the center of the road in Adair Co. That is if the Co Treasurer gave me the correct information.

Gene

[possum63]

IMO, Most of the farmers I know would be farming the middle of the road if they thought they paid the taxes on it! As crazy as land prices have gotten they are farming every inch they can. As was stated earlier, if you aren't sure ask the owner. More often than not they wil say yes and you won't have worry about it.

[Deleted]

had computer work done and lost loggon info and could not contact to get password as switched email account awhile back from mediacom to windsteam and this site had my old email info,so created a new account and my new handle on this site,definately want to make sure not past row trapping without permission can get you in big trouble. most farmers dont careif you trap in ditch,? i dont know some do and are real picky about it as they pay taxes on it,i am sure some dont like it but never said nothing to me. when trapping row you dont want to be hanging around forever or taking along time to make sets,not alot but sometimes they come up and see whats up or just somebody not a landowner might, this season only 1 law enforcement stopped to see whats up,sometimes can be alot more than that,not a lot but rarely you get a farmer come up and really bitch about your trapping a ditch and when happnes it is really good, had happnen once this fall under bridge with farmers boy who was around 50,talked to his dad before,not bad and back in march under county hiway bridge in row close to town where trapping for beaver, had trap set there for around a week,he was fixing fence and came up and was really pissed said he paid taxes on bridge and was illegal to trap under bridge without permission,pulled my trap and left,he was really mad. had others tell me you cannot trap ditch row without permission

[bowkill82]

i called my county engineer and found out my issue it is the family farm and someone put a set on our property in front of my set was thinking what i should do about it if i should tell him for the 5th yr hes tresspassing or slap him with a tresspassing ticket

[grinnergetter]

Private ground ticket - ROW not much you can do if beyond the 200 yard law

[bowkill82]

187 yds from driveway and 60 ft from center of road

[iowatrapper]

The distance from the driveway doesn't matter unless it's a coni or snare, but the 60 ft off the center does.

[~ADC~]

Jan 21, 2012 3:34:22 GMT -6 iowatrapper said:

The distance from the driveway doesn't matter unless it's a coni or snare, but the 60 ft off the center does.

Distance from the driveway doesn't matter ever. (though the DNR uses it or your mail box to see if its close) Its the distance to the "occupied buildings... etc...) that matters. If your house is 200yards off the road they could legally set right at the end of your driveway.

Still 60' off the center of the road seems to be out there a bit too far but if your fence line is out that far I'm thinking he may be OK anyway, judging by the pictures in the rule book.

~ADC~

[Eric Rector]

We have ditches in this county that are owned right up to the shoulder of the road, even though there are fencelines set back. So if one really wants to be clear about what is what, you would need to research the title. The way I understand it is, it is clear as mud in some cases.

[iowatrapper]

Jan 21, 2012 6:20:02 GMT -6 ~ADC~ said:

Jan 21, 2012 3:34:22 GMT -6 iowatrapper said:

The distance from the driveway doesn't matter unless it's a coni or snare, but the 60 ft off the center does.

Distance from the driveway doesn't matter ever. (though the DNR uses it or your mail box to see if its close) Its the distance to the "occupied buildings... etc...) that matters. If your house is 200yards off the road they could legally set right at the end of your driveway.



Thats not the way it sounds when I read the regs Jayme, says cannot within 200 yards of a private driveway at all?? Or am I wrong??


Public Roadside Limitations
Conibear-type traps and snares must not be set
on the right-of-way of a public road within 200
yards of the entry to a private drive serving a residence
without the permission of the occupant. You
cannot set or maintain any snare or conibear-type
trap within any public road right-of-way within
200 yards of buildings inhabited by humans unless
a resident of the dwelling adjacent to the public
road right-of-way has given permission, or unless
the body-gripping or conibear-type trap is completely
under water or at least one-half of the loop
of the snare is under water. This does not limit
the use of foothold traps or box-type live traps in
public road right-of-ways. A person may not place
a trap, stake or non-indigenous set making material
upon any public road right-of-way except during
a period of time that begins two weeks before the
trapping season opens and ends on the last day of
the season.



Still 60' off the center of the road seems to be out there a bit too far but if your fence line is out that far I'm thinking he may be OK anyway, judging by the pictures in the rule book.

~ADC~

[~ADC~]

You're right iowatrapper, must of overlooked that first sentence. If its close I just use DPs to be safe.