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Post by iajack on Oct 27, 2010 17:51:53 GMT -6
Hey all, This is my first post here but I wanted to offer some info on Iowas new "Shall Issue" permit to carry law. First off yes, this post is a bit self serving as I do give the training course towards the new permit. I am though one of the founders of Iowa Carry (now Iowa Firearms Coalition) who helped to get the new law passed and in place. I want to get correct information out there and see the transition to go smoothly and help everyone be safe. If I can answer any question on the new law I will be glad to. You can msg. me or contact me from my website. Here are a couple helpful links to start: www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/weaponspermitguide.pdfwww.hawkeyefirearmsinstruction.comThank you Attachments:
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Post by roosterk0031 on Oct 27, 2010 18:13:31 GMT -6
You can also get trained at Gander Mountain in Cedar Rapids, Fiercetraining just south of Iowa City, and Wolf Creek IDPA I believe just north of Traer. I don't know who does the Gander Mountain training but have shot with/been trained by the owner at Fiercetraining and Wolf Creek and are good people. Fierce & Wolf Creek have websites easy to find.
All depends where you are close too, but I'd highly recommend wolf creek, go do a IDPA match, then requalify afterwards if that's all you need. I'm not sure but usually your first match is free and I think they charge $25 to requalify afterwards.
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Post by justwannano on Oct 27, 2010 19:06:47 GMT -6
Hey iajack
How long does the course generally take.
Do you need to bring a handgun along?
Thanks for the info
Have a good 1
just
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Post by dspree on Oct 28, 2010 2:28:38 GMT -6
My question is do I need to retake the course if I already have? And if so why? I was told that the course has to be N.R.A. certified. What makes the N.R.A. better than the sherrif that was the instructor for the class I took?
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Post by roosterk0031 on Oct 28, 2010 12:03:58 GMT -6
www.fiercetraining.org/According to Mike at above website and the way I read it, current permit holders can requaify before their current permit expires which will be good for 5 years. At that time you have to go thru a class again. He charges about $15 to requalify you, Wolf Creek IDPA charges $25 after there monthly match (don't know if you have to shoot the match or not). www.wolfcreektraining.net/Some of the guys I shot with Saturday just went thru the Wapello county class that was taught by a Poweshik county deputy or sheriff at a cost of $20 I believe. If your permit expires in January, and don't want to mess with it now, I'd go in and see if you can renew early and be good till next October. You must requalify before your current permit expires or you have to take the class. David
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Post by iayogi17 on Oct 29, 2010 7:14:21 GMT -6
How many of you guys have realized you can not shoot a pistol in or on a ROW.
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Post by roosterk0031 on Oct 29, 2010 7:22:40 GMT -6
How many of you guys have realized you can not shoot a pistol in or on a ROW. I believe your wrong. www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/huntingregs.pdfPage 15 Can't shoot handgun on Roadway, which includes the shoulders, doesn't include the ditches. |
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Post by dfox on Oct 29, 2010 7:36:03 GMT -6
How many of you guys have realized you can not shoot a pistol in or on a ROW. I believe your wrong. www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/huntingregs.pdfPage 15 Can't shoot handgun on Roadway, which includes the shoulders, doesn't include the ditches. Additionally, no person shall discharge a rifle, including a muzzleloading rifle or musket, or a handgun
from a highway; or discharge a shotgun shooting slugs from a highway north of U.S. Highway 30, while deer hunting. Look at the picture below the above section in the rules, it shows that the highway includes the ditches, which is the entire ROW. I asked a CO about this and he said that is right and you can't discharge a pistol in the ditch, but he did nto enforce it for trappers. So sounds to me that it's up to the CO in your area if they are going ot ticket you for it or not. The roadway is the traveled portion and the shoulders, not the ditches. |
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Post by roosterk0031 on Oct 29, 2010 7:43:33 GMT -6
"Shooting Rifle Over Water or Highway
You cannot shoot any rifle on or over any of
the public highways or waters of the state or any
railroad right-of-way. You cannot discharge a shotgun
shooting a slug, pistol or revolver on or over a
public roadway (see diagram below).
Additionally, no person shall discharge a rifle,
including a muzzleloading rifle or musket, or a handgun
from a highway; or discharge a shotgun shooting
slugs from a highway north of U.S. Highway 30,
while deer hunting.
“Roadway” means the portion of the highway
improved, designed or ordinarily used for vehicular
travel, including the shoulder.
“Highway” means the entire width between
property lines, from fenceline to fenceline (includes
the ditches).
The first paragaph you quoted, have to read the last line, "while deer hunting".
"You cannot discharge a shotgun shooting a slug, pistol or revolver on or over a public roadway (see diagram below).
Discharging Rifle in Highway = illegal.
Anything but shotgun with birdshot from Roadway = Illegal
Deer hunting north of HWY30 from Highway(ROW) = illegal
Deer hunting from ditches south of HWY30 = legal
Shooting shotgun, handgun in ditches (off roadway) = Legal
Bird hunting in ROW even from roadway = legal
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Post by muskrat72 on Oct 29, 2010 8:02:32 GMT -6
I beleive chris flynn said last year that you cannot discharge a pistol in the ditch.
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Post by dfox on Oct 29, 2010 8:12:57 GMT -6
I don't think it only applies to deer hunting, at least that's not what the CO I talked to said. Once again, more confusion in the way they write the rules and regs and how each person interprets them.
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Post by roosterk0031 on Oct 29, 2010 8:35:18 GMT -6
If it's not allowed ever why would they even include "while deer hunting".
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Post by ~ADC~ on Oct 29, 2010 9:14:26 GMT -6
I agree with rooster on this. "while deer hunting" is the key. If you're not deer hunting you are OK to shoot a handgun in the ditch.
~ADC~
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Post by ~ADC~ on Oct 29, 2010 9:15:44 GMT -6
I beleive chris flynn said last year that you cannot discharge a pistol in the ditch. I don't recall that. Seems like something that big I would remember.  ~ADC~ |
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Post by Scott W. on Oct 29, 2010 10:46:27 GMT -6
Did a little search, this is what I found. True you can not fire a 22 cal rifle in right of way. But you can use a 22 cal pistol legally according to the CO here in Dubuque county. The CO is correct Stomper. Keep in mind that as my post above indicates, it is unlawful to discharge the pistol from or across the roadway. The ditch is perfectly legal. cf Read more: www.iowatrapperstalk.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=chrisf#ixzz13lc4p19tAs far as shooting around roadways, the only thing that should affect trappers is the discharging of rifles and handguns from or across the public highway, which is fence to fence. In the absense of a fence, use your best judgement as to where the fence should be. A rifle cannot be discharged anywhere from within or across any part of this area. I would like to see the day where there is an exception for dispatching trapped furbearers with a .22 rifle within the right of way, but as it stands now, it is unfortunately illegal. A handgun may be discharged within the right of way, provided it is not discharged from or across any portion of the roadway, which is that portion that is maintained for vehicles to travel on. The roadway includes the pavement and shoulder, or on a gravel or dirt road, it is the part the maintainer hits. A handgun may legally be fired in the rest of the right of way, which is the area between the roadway and fence. To legally discharge any firearm, you must be 200yards from a building inhabited by people or domestic livestock or a feedlot unless the owner has given consent to do so. This applies to both right of ways, and private property. The driveway and mailbox has nothing to do with the area you can/can't discharge a firearm. It is the actual structure or feedlot that is the concern Read more: www.iowatrapperstalk.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=chrisf#ixzz13lcasvHP |
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Post by muskrat72 on Oct 29, 2010 10:51:24 GMT -6
Must have been one of those busch light moments that made me think that. Thanks.
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Post by iayogi17 on Oct 29, 2010 11:00:35 GMT -6
wording could be better. well at least I got you guys fired up. thank goodness I'm not a CO  |
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Post by dfox on Oct 29, 2010 12:02:27 GMT -6
Sounds like the Boone County CO does not know what he is talking about then. That's the one I talked to.
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Post by furman on Oct 29, 2010 13:15:22 GMT -6
The way i understand the laws is if you have a permit you can have a uncased long guns in your truck
here's one i want to know
can you carry a handgun while on a ATV....i was told all long guns need to be cased while on a ATV even if you have a permit to carry.....i haven't looked at Iowa code
I'm sure the DNR is worried about guys hunting off a 4 wheelers or sleds
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Post by dfox on Oct 29, 2010 13:21:57 GMT -6
here's one i want to know can you carry a handgun while on a ATV....i was told all long guns need to be cased while on a ATV even if you have a permit to carry.....i haven't looked at Iowa code I'm sure the DNR is worried about guys hunting off a 4 wheelers or sleds This explains it here: www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/weaponspermitguide.pdf |
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Post by furman on Oct 29, 2010 13:28:02 GMT -6
so it's a No No
LOL i can have a hidden loaded gun on my person but when i get on my ATV i have to unload it and put in a case
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Post by roosterk0031 on Oct 29, 2010 14:45:24 GMT -6
www.dps.state.ia.us/asd/SF2379_FAQ_Version1_0.pdfThis was posted here before but some good Q&A Not sure how the CO is supposted to know if I'm hunting or just on my way home when he stops me and I have the loaded 9mm, 12 semi and AR setting beside me just in case I need to protect myself.
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