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Post by Kelly on May 2, 2010 16:51:36 GMT -6
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Post by braveheart on May 2, 2010 17:36:12 GMT -6
It still makes a waste out of a piece of fur.They should have the season start after deer season so the fur is some what good.
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Post by Kelly on May 2, 2010 21:20:40 GMT -6
It still makes a waste out of a piece of fur.They should have the season start after deer season so the fur is some what good. Yup, definitely agree with that. Same goes for otter. |
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Post by Bristleback on May 2, 2010 21:48:35 GMT -6
Totally agree with K, and BH, just a huge waste of resource..........I'm guessing the vast majority of cats are taken in "coon".........errrr I mean bobcat sets......snares/conibears, given the coon trapping pressure alah Iowa trapping.
These early Nov caught cats are a fraction of what they are in Jan/Feb/March.
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 3, 2010 6:06:23 GMT -6
I have to agree with you all about the cats not being prime and you will never catch a good prime cat the way the season is now . However with all the snares used on coon our "quota" is met fairly quickly.My suggestion is that we could by a tag like turkey or deer and we can use that tag throughout the season but could only tag one. That would at least allow some that would like to go after one to do that when there as time. Not during the first 2 weeks when we are after coon.Incidentals are going to happen whether there is an open season or not so why not let us pay 10.00 or so for a permit that allows us to keep them. I have caught my share of cats but have turned them over only to hear they had been buried. That to me is wanting waste and that is not what I ever want to see. Just my opinion which means very little at least to the DNR.
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Post by x-demoman on May 3, 2010 15:45:29 GMT -6
Even though we do not like it and we, the ITA and not all trappers have asked and fought for years to have the seasons coincide with the primeness of fur, SEASONS ARE SET FOR THE OUTDOOR EXPERIENCE THAT WILL BENEFIT THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE. Guess the economic impact we have is not large enough to induce a change.
To use primeness as a starting date would vary so much from north to south it would probably require zones and I know no one who is in favor of that. Too late north and they are frozen up and to early south they are still blue.
Gene
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Post by Kelly on May 3, 2010 15:51:30 GMT -6
Gene;
Any changes coming down the pike for Otter?
Thaks, Kelly
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Post by iayogi17 on May 3, 2010 19:39:30 GMT -6
Gene; Any changes coming down the pike for Otter? Thaks, Kelly I'm hoping next year that they will get rid of the 2 per person deal |
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Post by x-demoman on May 3, 2010 20:33:37 GMT -6
Talking with some DNR folks at various places there seems to be some interest in opening otter and bobcat state wide. They agree with several trappers/hunters who agree "if you don' t have any to trap" you will not catch any. That sets a nice level playing field for everyone.
Kelly there is still a lot of skepticisim about over harvest and change will be hard. We do have the research on our side and forbidding extremely high prices overharvest of either is very unlikely. Most trapper in Iowa do not know how to successfully trap either, thus they are caught as incidental catchs. Unless you are really wanting either most will not have out over a handful of traps specifically for either species. Why put in the time and effort to bury say 24 sets for cats when you can only posess 1?
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Post by bch on May 8, 2010 9:39:23 GMT -6
The cats that are caught after the quota is filled are not buried. They are collectted up and skinned and finished. I know because I finish them for the DNR. Many are dressed and given to county conservation boards for display, and educational purposes. The rest the DNR has in storage and are waiting to get tags from fish and wildlife so they can be sold.
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 8, 2010 16:06:24 GMT -6
The cats that are caught after the quota is filled are not buried. They are collectted up and skinned and finished. I know because I finish them for the DNR. Many are dressed and given to county conservation boards for display, and educational purposes. The rest the DNR has in storage and are waiting to get tags from fish and wildlife so they can be sold. With all due respect I know for a fact the cats I turned over 3 yrs ago in Pottawattamie co. were buried in Lake Manawa State Park. The CO at the time told them to bury them and they did. I know a lot of cats and otter are skinned but if a co is busy with something else those furs are not getting priority. |
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Post by hugerod on May 8, 2010 21:11:24 GMT -6
I caught an otter some years ago, called the CO, he told me to put it in the freezer till he had time to pick it up. He never showed, otter ended up rotting, tossed it in the grove.  |
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