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Post by ~ADC~ on Nov 3, 2009 7:03:16 GMT -6
According to what some folks believe, from reading other posts on here, a loaded clip NOT in the gun is still concidered a loaded weapon. Is this the DNR's stand on it as well or is it just something that's been misunderstood? To clarify, if you're stopped and your rifle is properly in the case and unloaded yet you have the clip for that rifle loaded (NOT in the gun or even in the case) can and will you be ticketed? ~ADC~
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Post by k9 on Nov 3, 2009 7:52:35 GMT -6
Its a no no but I have never seen anyone ticketed for it. I have seen guys get warnings for it. When I get more time later today I will check the code so I can get you the exact language
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Post by dspree on Nov 3, 2009 8:31:24 GMT -6
A loaded magazine IS considered a loaded weapon. You might not get a ticket if you get stopped, but why take the chance. The law is the law. If the cop is having a bad day he could make your life pretty misserable. I have my ccl and that was one of the things that was brought up in the class.
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Post by trappinia on Nov 3, 2009 9:48:24 GMT -6
It can all depend on the officer who stops you.
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Post by Brett H. on Nov 3, 2009 11:04:01 GMT -6
It can all depend on the officer who stops you. It can depend on the officer who stops you if you get a ticket, BUT it is ILLEGAL!!!
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Post by jasonfitz on Nov 3, 2009 12:24:09 GMT -6
i have got a warning for it.
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Post by Bristleback on Nov 3, 2009 12:45:12 GMT -6
Not a quote, but to paraphrase the law: firearms and magazines are to be unloaded.
Depends on the officer............. it could, and likely the situation: I've been written for going 10 over and given a warning for going 20 over~
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Post by stomper on Nov 3, 2009 18:48:05 GMT -6
The DNR at our hunter safty class said the clip is concidered the magazine and must be unloaded.
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Post by trappinia on Nov 3, 2009 19:08:27 GMT -6
Just to clarify my post a loaded mag is considered a loaded weapon , my point was that it depends on the officer that stops you if they write you on it .
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Post by cooner on Nov 3, 2009 19:34:23 GMT -6
c.o. checked my 22 pistol in locked handgun case and ammo and out carefully,held it up to him,like to see if it was concelible in case or if case had any defects. how big does the case have to be?he asked me twice if i was sure if i did not had any extra clips besides the unloaded clip in gun that were loaded in my pickup elsewhere. i understood if you had an extra spare clip not in gun,but over 3 ft. from gun,and was loaded, it was illegal.
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Post by Bristleback on Nov 4, 2009 8:33:17 GMT -6
Just my opinion............but as I understand it, the law states that guns AND MAGAZINES are to be unloaded, not that a "magazine" is a gun, but the law states guns and magazines are to be unloaded..........unless you have a permit.
so..............if you have a loaded magazine and you don't have a permit.........you're breaking the law.
Does someone have the CODE handy?
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Post by tommytjf on Nov 4, 2009 14:57:14 GMT -6
Here is what regulations say...
Transporting Firearms You may not have or carry a shotgun or rifle in a vehicle that is on a public highway, unless the firearm is taken down or totally contained in a securely fastened case with its barrels and magazines unloaded. Handguns must be transported unloaded in a closed container or securely wrapped package too large to conceal on your person or which is not readily accessible to any person in the vehicle. Muzzleloaders must be cased but will be considered unloaded if the cap is removed from the nipple or the priming charge is removed from the pan.
Tom
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Post by chrisf on Nov 5, 2009 12:04:54 GMT -6
By code, loaded magazines for long guns are considered loaded guns. As standard operating procedure, Iowa COs do not cite for this if there are no extenuating circumstances, such as excessive movement leading the officer to believe the mag was just removed or gun cased upon being stopped, or when there are more serious crimes present, such as spotlighting, shooting from the vehicle, etc. Keep in mind, we COs are not the only law enforcement officers out there enforcing manner of conveyance laws. I'm sure a Des Moines City Police officer would treat a magazine differently than a CO or Trooper working a rural area. cf
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