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Post by BigT on May 19, 2012 17:25:37 GMT -6
Sure glad my stuff is sold and the money is in the bank!! The FHA sale was beyond rough today!!! Coon and coyotes got KILLED! I do have some rats and a couple coon at NAFA but I think the coon are up sh*t crick! Hope the rats hold!
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Post by furman on May 19, 2012 18:52:04 GMT -6
look at all the fur that came out of the freezers...it's in the buyer corner now...got the nafa sale coming up here also so the buyers arn't in any rush and nafa's stance is not to sit on wild fur in the spring...glad to see fh hold them it's the best move
get through this glut of wild fur and it gets used up the wild fur market still looks bright
haven't talked to anybody about the rats/mink but my guess they'll do fine...as long as them ranch mink hang in there
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 19, 2012 20:13:46 GMT -6
I am paying cash for used dps and 1.5coilsprings. PM me. LLL
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Post by x-demoman on May 20, 2012 9:57:49 GMT -6
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Post by furtaker72 on May 20, 2012 13:47:28 GMT -6
I would rather BUST than sell to Groeny !!
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Post by riverbandit on May 20, 2012 13:50:33 GMT -6
Buyers must be turning to Groeny more and more to fill their coon needs. He reports coon getting better.
I guess if I were a garment maker I would prefer to deal with a trusted source and a set price than deal with the competition at auction where I'm forced to bid against other buyers to fill my needs.
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Post by riverbandit on May 20, 2012 13:55:47 GMT -6
I would rather BUST than sell to Groeny !! Too bad you feel that way, but if you enjoy losing money that's your right. I prefer to get the most out of my hard work and after weeding through dozens of out lets over the past 3 decades Groeny is my best option the majority of the time.
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Post by blackhammer on May 20, 2012 15:32:36 GMT -6
We get it you like selling to Groeny. ;D
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Post by riverbandit on May 20, 2012 18:04:36 GMT -6
No....I like selling where ever I receive the best price the majority of the time. At the present it happens to be Groeny. A few years ago Weibke was the better out let and bought some of my fur.
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Post by blackhammer on May 20, 2012 19:55:49 GMT -6
Good game plan for selling anything Dave.
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 21, 2012 5:01:48 GMT -6
A twenty dollar plus in the country sure sounds good now guys. I had a few at the sale and they averaged 10.15. I had one coon in lot 9312 that was a 3x select AB that went for 30.00. Take off commission and your looking at under 27.00. I sold alot of 3x coon to Groeny and got 27.00 for them. I think they had the right price structure all year. Our coon will be ok but I wouldn't want to be catching coat coon for a living. LLL
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Post by hooter on May 21, 2012 5:45:20 GMT -6
FHA hasn't posted the sale results yet but I sold just over 90% of the coon I had there. Caught the tail end of the cybercast for coon saturday and thought is was gonna be bad. My prices were 10=13% less than the march sale for the same size-grade coon. Of course I was hoping for more but was really afraid they were going to be worse with all the coon on the market. I've got 6 left to sell and can live with that. Hind sight is 20-20. You sell in the country you've got cash in hand and you ship its out of your hands. Sometimes you win or lose. Its all the nature of the game.
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Post by lil griz on May 22, 2012 14:17:17 GMT -6
I dont really care how much i make when i sell my fur im 19 and dont make much when trapping is all said and done im just out there because i love doing it everyone who i talk to says to get out now its a dieing art and i refuse do it for the love not the money
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Post by whopper01 on May 22, 2012 18:13:19 GMT -6
very well spoken young man sounds to me like everyone on here is trying to make a living in a few months of total enjoyment!!!!
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Post by bone hunter on May 22, 2012 18:26:26 GMT -6
X2 whopper01
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Post by riverbandit on May 22, 2012 19:35:33 GMT -6
very well spoken young man sounds to me like everyone on here is trying to make a living in a few months of total enjoyment!!!! Are you trying to say one can't find total enjoyment from deriving an income from the bounty of the trapline? If so you are sadly mistaken! At the age of 9 I knew that I LOVED the trapping experience so much that I was determined that this was how I would make a living/partial living as long as I could do so and there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that. I've found over the years that those who chastise others for deriving a decent income from the trap line are normally not capable of doing so them selves.
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Post by ~ADC~ on May 22, 2012 19:42:28 GMT -6
There are several people who sold to Groenwald last season who would of done better to ship to auction... at the same time others were paid handsomely from Groenwald.
No, they shouldn't of sold for what he offered... but they did, and lost... tis the game of selling fur.
~ADC~
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 22, 2012 20:05:00 GMT -6
Can you make a living trapping? LLL
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Post by lil griz on May 23, 2012 16:44:18 GMT -6
i sell to Groenwald just do to the fact it is local and helps pay the gas bill but i sold to a man named kenny patterson when i first started and even though groenwald payed more kenny knew me by my first name and when i sold i could sit and bs about trappin with the old dog trappers who have been doin it since they were my age and talk to kenny and pick up pointers but with groenwald it seems like im just a number and cant socialize i think people are gettin to worried about money when it comes to trappin and dont sit back and enjoy it as much as they used to back 10 or 20 years ago and thats what i think some other people on here are trying to get to as well because we all enjoy it or we wouldnt do it i just believe some enjoy it more then others
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Post by ntg2 on May 24, 2012 11:53:09 GMT -6
You have to start to use a period young man. Its tuff to sort it out. All buyers are trying to secure Quality Fur at a price with in which they can turn a profit. Groeny is buying fur at auctions to cover his orders just like all the other buyers. You will know you are somebody when Groeny flies you NAFA Big T
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Post by coonking on May 24, 2012 20:32:51 GMT -6
I dont really care how much i make when i sell my fur im 19 and dont make much when trapping is all said and done im just out there because i love doing it everyone who i talk to says to get out now its a dieing art and i refuse do it for the love not the money Since making money isnt an issue you can put your fur in my freezer after your done skinning mine for free.
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Post by lil griz on May 25, 2012 11:01:09 GMT -6
Sorry about the punctuation ntg2. and coonking mo is along ways to go
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Post by ntg2 on May 25, 2012 18:48:22 GMT -6
You need to go and do what makes sense to you and for you. Driving thirty min round tip in the fall is to far for me a lot of the time but in the winter no big deal. I have sold all the ways and don't know whats best until 6 months later. I think that if the market for any fur takes off it starts at the auction house and not in a old truck that you put your fur through a window like at a carnival. He wont pay up until he has to.
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Post by riverbandit on May 26, 2012 10:16:25 GMT -6
I don't know about that. The large country buyers set the market tones long before any auctions take place each season. Take rats for instance. How many lost big bucks on rats at auction a couple years ago, yet Groeny remained stable with his price, or coon on this last FH sale averaging $13 and change for IA grade coonwith pitiful clearances, yet Groeny reports coon moving well and their prices remaining un changed. Sure the little buyers follow the auctions since most use them as their out let, but the big boys price goods according to movement and interest from foreign out lets, not by what the auctions do.
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 26, 2012 10:35:17 GMT -6
Thank God for that!!! LLL
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Post by ntg2 on May 26, 2012 14:37:09 GMT -6
He will be buying a lot of coon next week at a small discount( if big t is right) to fill and finsh off those good orders. Its all forgien outllets. The hope is someday someone will get caught short and then boom!!!
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Post by riverbandit on May 26, 2012 16:00:14 GMT -6
I guess I missed where T said Groeny would be weaker on coon next week.
Any truth to that T?
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Post by Auctioneer on May 26, 2012 21:42:17 GMT -6
Sold mine at the ITA auction and was perfectly satisfied. To each his own.
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Post by grinnergetter on May 26, 2012 22:20:17 GMT -6
I would agree with the ITA auction. Sold all green skins so shipping was not an option for us. I have been happy with the prices the last two years. Yes we might have done better trying other places but were still happy with our return. Sold our furs helped the ITA and did not feel we were under paid. We will sell there again next year.
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Post by LLLTrapper on May 27, 2012 6:20:58 GMT -6
The only problem I have seen with the ITA sale was the lack of outside buyers. The "good old boy" policy runs rampid there. Also it is the day of or day after the first FHA sale which in my opinion never has been a good sale. Two years in a row I have heard nothing but "Did you see what they did to coon at Furharvesters?" I heard that from several of the buyers there. One buyer tried to tell me to go home and sell everything I had cause the coon market was heading to the crapper. I guess he was a ways off because I sold them when I was ready and still beat the sale average by 3.00. Each. If the ITA really wanted to make some money they would talk the DNR into a single day fur buyers license and let some more out of state buyers in that are not in the "CLUB"More buyers could mean a few pissing matches over fur and more money for the trapper and the ITA. For those that would say that an auction don't set prices I will point to that sale. It DOES set the tone at that one. I will sell at this years auction to benefit the ITA but not as many as in the past. LLL
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