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Post by furgood on Nov 9, 2013 18:45:25 GMT -6
I was given the heads up that the warden was looking for me, so I gave him a call. Seems that anchoring a trap to a concrete block is illegal and he had confiscated two of mine from culverts. We talked awhile and he is going to give me a warning violation tomorrow. As I learned this set from this site, I'm letting you know.
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Post by trapdog on Nov 9, 2013 18:46:46 GMT -6
What reason did he give you?
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Post by coonnfoxtrapper on Nov 9, 2013 18:47:19 GMT -6
What was his Reasoning? It makes no seance.
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Post by TRapper on Nov 9, 2013 18:49:30 GMT -6
got to be another story to go with it, it is not illegal to fasten a trap to a drag in iowa...no matter what the drag is
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Post by imissed on Nov 9, 2013 18:54:29 GMT -6
I believe its illegal if its hooked to a snare.
Brad
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Post by bradphillips on Nov 9, 2013 18:55:33 GMT -6
Really?  I have used cement blocks as the deep end of beaver drowners. Handy, if you can drive close to the set area. |
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Post by x-demoman on Nov 9, 2013 18:58:00 GMT -6
Illegal in Iowa or Neb?
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Post by TRapper on Nov 9, 2013 19:03:45 GMT -6
snare yes as can't hook a snare to a drag but if it is a foot trap or conibear then it would be fine
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Post by rugersinglesix on Nov 9, 2013 19:12:52 GMT -6
Ive talked to the game warden before about them, he never said it was illegal, actually said it was a good idea.
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Post by furgood on Nov 9, 2013 20:14:31 GMT -6
He said that it was in the code that no trap could be attached to a drag. He agreed that it wasn't in that it wasn't clear in the regulation book, but it was in the code. His reasoning was the block could be drug by the coon on the smooth culvert floor past the fence line.
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Post by furgood on Nov 9, 2013 20:16:14 GMT -6
This was in Iowa. Pott county
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Post by ~ADC~ on Nov 9, 2013 20:29:31 GMT -6
 I disagree with that C.O. if that is truely in the code it should be in the pamphlet we all get as well. You got screwed IMO. Hopefully some of the CO's on here can clear this up.
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Post by 4fur on Nov 9, 2013 20:46:19 GMT -6
Kind of suspicious you have fur ripped off from these type sets, then trouble from the law. Sounds to me like trappers causing trouble for other trappers. I disagree with the C.O. But if he presses it, you know how to catch those coon with 10 other methods. Welcome to Iowa during the Fur Boom, Joe.
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Post by furgood on Nov 9, 2013 21:05:54 GMT -6
I will adjust and drive on Wayne. I only did it because I don't like to press the edge of the row. Setting inside is as in the row as you can get.
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Post by bradphillips on Nov 9, 2013 21:45:33 GMT -6
So, if trapped game goes across the limit of the ROW, should you not pursue the animal? Whether it is staked or on a drag you have a responsibility to recover game.
I believe the no drag rule only pertains to snares.
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Post by hvtrapper on Nov 10, 2013 6:13:27 GMT -6
Sounds like your CO is a reasonable guy since he offered to only write a warning violation. I'd ask your CO to call Chris Flynn and ask him first.
Like others have already stated, My interpretation from the game law synopsis is that only snares are prohibited from being attached to a drag.
I could be in trouble as well. Been attaching traps to concrete blocks for years.
This is totally irrelevant to the legalities, but.
I'll throw the BS flag on the potential to drag a full sized concrete (not cinder) block out of the row. I've had big coon move a concrete block a few feet on a smooth surface, but no further.
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Post by k9 on Nov 10, 2013 8:35:42 GMT -6
I believe he's wrong
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Post by rugersinglesix on Nov 10, 2013 12:06:29 GMT -6
Id like to catch a coon that can drag off a 35 pound concrete block
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Post by tevins on Nov 10, 2013 17:32:46 GMT -6
Would a trapped animal be like it is deer hunting ? You have the right to retrieve the animal but cannot take a gun ?? Just my 2 cents.. tama county |
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Post by ~ADC~ on Nov 10, 2013 17:35:02 GMT -6
Please keep us updated on this Joe. If there is an obscure law out there on this I'd like to know before I set some of these sets later on in the winter.
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Post by furgood on Nov 10, 2013 18:19:28 GMT -6
We were going to meet after he finished with deer hunters. But it appears they kept him too busy. Will update when resolved.
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Post by 4fur on Nov 10, 2013 18:44:00 GMT -6
His name Price?
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Post by fox63king on Nov 10, 2013 19:08:38 GMT -6
His name is Richard Price and he used to be a Montgomery county county park ranger before he became a actual game warden Ive had some run ins with him when lets just say HE IS A REAL PR**K |
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Post by 220 trappervd on Nov 10, 2013 19:22:18 GMT -6
Id like to catch a coon that can drag off a 35 pound concrete block X2. That would be a big one |
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Post by ~ADC~ on Nov 10, 2013 19:36:32 GMT -6
I e-mailed Chris Flynn - Here is his reply...
Thanks again Chris.
Joe, I think he owes you an apology.
~ADC~
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Post by bone hunter on Nov 10, 2013 19:50:54 GMT -6
I've known Mr. Price for a long time! Always got along with him, but he thinks he is preety important. I can see how he made this mistake!
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Post by riverbandit on Nov 10, 2013 20:09:31 GMT -6
Id like to catch a coon that can drag off a 35 pound concrete block X2. That would be a big one Guys, the coon doesn't pick up the block and carry it on its back, they simply drag it. A 20lb coon can drag a concrete block a good distance if the conditions are right. Been there, seen it. |
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Post by 4fur on Nov 11, 2013 6:13:07 GMT -6
I don't think you will have any problem with officer price, Furgood. You are the most legal competitor I've ever had and Price is a good egg in my book. I'm pretty sure he also traps. We're all constantly learning and we all make mistakes.
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Post by k9 on Nov 11, 2013 7:27:33 GMT -6
My blocked coon tip it over and are sitting on top of it simple as that
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Post by rugersinglesix on Nov 11, 2013 12:28:33 GMT -6
X2. That would be a big one Guys, the coon doesn't pick up the block and carry it on its back, they simply drag it. A 20lb coon can drag a concrete block a good distance if the conditions are right. Been there, seen it. |
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I have used cement blocks as the deep end of beaver drowners. Handy, if you can drive close to the set area.
