lmfur
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Oct 4, 2013 21:01:00 GMT -6
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Post by lmfur on Oct 4, 2013 21:01:00 GMT -6
I have read many post on here and i believe many people dont fully understand the laws of road right away. Its not just from fence to fence. On all roads its a minimum of 32ft from center and as the road bed size goes up so does the right of way. Also may culverts start in the row on one side and go past on the other if you can walk through the culvert you can legally set the other side. Knowing the laws to to the exact limit helps get those few extra skins and the knowlege helps keep you out of trouble.
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Post by x-demoman on Oct 5, 2013 6:16:12 GMT -6
Many times it is the little things like "pushing the legal limit for a ""few extra"" pelts that causes trapping some its biggest problems". Just because it is {legal} does not mean it is the best ethical decision for the trapping community. This is a personal decision that affects trappers state and sometimes nation wide.
Gene
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Post by possum63 on Oct 5, 2013 6:18:29 GMT -6
Many times it is the little things like "pushing the legal limit for a ""few extra"" pelts that causes trapping some its biggest problems". Just because it is {legal} does not mean it is the best ethical decision for the trapping community. This is a personal decision that affects trappers state and sometimes nation wide. Gene X2
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 5, 2013 6:23:17 GMT -6
I agree Gene. LLL
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Post by jeff on Oct 5, 2013 7:48:31 GMT -6
I agree sometimes its best just to get along but at the same time we should be able utilize the ROW in a legal manner. Personally if I question a spot at all I pass it up its not worth the headache.
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Oct 5, 2013 12:43:21 GMT -6
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Post by lmfur on Oct 5, 2013 12:43:21 GMT -6
Im not saying if the row goes to a door step set it. But there is countless row springs and water holes that people over look that are legal. You should never set where the trapping community will be mocked. But use the row to its fullest when road trapping
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Post by calvin on Oct 5, 2013 18:21:34 GMT -6
Good point, Gene. Remember, many states do not allow ROW trapping because someone pushed it too far. It would be a real bummer to lose ROW trapping. Sometimes we have to pass up good locations for the betterment of all trappers...even if legal.
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Post by bradphillips on Oct 5, 2013 19:17:54 GMT -6
I try to run with in the fences, or at the least make sure I am on my side if at all possible. Some arguments can be won, but at what cost?
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Post by Griz on Oct 6, 2013 11:46:40 GMT -6
Good point, Gene. Remember, many states do not allow ROW trapping because someone pushed it too far. It would be a real bummer to lose ROW trapping. Sometimes we have to pass up good locations for the betterment of all trappers...even if legal. I agree. A few extra pelts are not worth being a black mark on the trapping community.
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lmfur
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Oct 7, 2013 7:00:01 GMT -6
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Post by lmfur on Oct 7, 2013 7:00:01 GMT -6
I like how othe people blow things out of proportion i ment there is a 200ft right away on highways that are away from houses and most have just cropfields on the other side and you guys talk as if ur not with in the shadow of a bridge all hells going to break loose and trapping will b gone im stating no the laws so you dont get in a pissing match with another guy by a bridge on who is leagal
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Oct 7, 2013 7:59:01 GMT -6
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Post by medicdano on Oct 7, 2013 7:59:01 GMT -6
I like how othe people blow things out of proportion i ment there is a 200ft right away on highways that are away from houses and most have just cropfields on the other side and you guys talk as if ur not with in the shadow of a bridge all hells going to break loose and trapping will b gone im stating no the laws so you dont get in a pissing match with another guy by a bridge on who is leagal What?? 200'? Secondary roads have a 66' ROW or 33' from center of roadway, all other roads can vary because of multiple reasons, but the rule of thumb is fence to fence. And just a suggestion but punctuation makes it sooooo much easier to read.
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Post by 4fur on Oct 7, 2013 8:30:32 GMT -6
Just like ROW trapping, Imfur, you need thick skin on these forums. It's good you started this thread to review the public ROW laws.
There is always a lot of competition in the ROW and this year will be no exception.
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Post by skunkboy on Oct 7, 2013 9:04:52 GMT -6
Just like ROW trapping, Imfur, you need thick skin on these forums. It's good you started this thread to review the public ROW laws. There is always a lot of competition in the ROW and this year will be no exception. Considering the price of fur last year, I think ROW trapping will be more crowded than ever before. I think you're going to find traps on to of traps at nearly every bridge/culvert from the Mississippi to the Missouri. Just mind your manners and do what you need to do. No need to start a war. Medicdano is correct. Most ROW's (especially in rural areas) are 66'. Most times, it's 33' from the center of the road, but not always. And almost always, it is between the fences with very few acceptions. Should you find a culvert that goes beyond the 33' mark, be carefull, there probably is extra ROW but you will not know how far unless you look it up at the DOT of County Assessors office. My best advice would be to just stay between the fences. Even if the ROW lies 1' outside the fence, you'll more than likely avoid any argument with te ajacent land owner. Hope that helped some...Ken
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Post by jaredskillen1 on Oct 7, 2013 10:32:32 GMT -6
So I know you have to be within the fences. But how close to the fence can you set?
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Oct 7, 2013 10:43:52 GMT -6
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Post by medicdano on Oct 7, 2013 10:43:52 GMT -6
Its in the regs.
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Post by TRAPPERTOM on Oct 7, 2013 11:20:49 GMT -6
I did trap up there last year, I have not trapped there since I was a young man on the farm, wow was I in for a surprise when I started setting, there were at least 4 traps at every spot I stopped at,i was tripping over snares in the ditch, I even had one catch my foot that I did not see, so much competition, but I still caught some coon, and not once did I see anything in any trap I seen the whole 8 days I was there, I am originally from Iowa, my parents still farm there, but so much has changed, all the cover has gone away, you guys should be very fortunate about the ROW lass there, they are spelled out very clear, ROW trapping here is legal, but not spelled out very clear at all, it just states that you can set it the ditch, and under bridges, a lot of grey area, but I will say this about trapping down here, soo much timber and trees here, the coon are not concentrated in any spots, you just have to find trails in the ditch with timber on both sides of the road. the whole time I have been trapping here, I have only seen one other trap from another person, no competition at all, which does feel real good, I was in for a wake up call when I went up there last year, but learned a few things
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 7, 2013 14:32:52 GMT -6
I bet you will have company this season. LLL
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Post by TRAPPERTOM on Oct 7, 2013 15:52:04 GMT -6
that's ok Larry, he who traps the longest, gets more fur
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Oct 7, 2013 17:12:13 GMT -6
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Post by lmfur on Oct 7, 2013 17:12:13 GMT -6
Just like ROW trapping, Imfur, you need thick skin on these forums. It's good you started this thread to review the public ROW laws. There is always a lot of competition in the ROW and this year will be no exception. Considering the price of fur last year, I think ROW trapping will be more crowded than ever before. I think you're going to find traps on to of traps at nearly every bridge/culvert from the Mississippi to the Missouri. Just mind your manners and do what you need to do. No need to start a war. Medicdano is correct. Most ROW's (especially in rural areas) are 66'. Most times, it's 33' from the center of the road, but not always. And almost always, it is between the fences with very few acceptions. Should you find a culvert that goes beyond the 33' mark, be carefull, there probably is extra ROW but you will not know how far unless you look it up at the DOT of County Assessors office. My best advice would be to just stay between the fences. Even if the ROW lies 1' outside the fence, you'll more than likely avoid any argument with te ajacent land owner. Hope that helped some...Ken at the same time the row might be 33 from center but the fence is 60ft from center
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 7, 2013 17:24:21 GMT -6
Where are you talking about? Are you talking about state highways? County roads are 33' and I will tell you at the prices of grain and taxes that farmer will have his fence or crop right to the line. If there are utility poles they will be at the edge of the row as well. Why are you arguing? Read the law and quit trying to stir the pot on here. LLL
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Post by trapperray on Oct 7, 2013 18:30:51 GMT -6
Alot of times when the state or county builds a PCC box culvert or bridge they get a temporey easment to build,upon completion that temp. easment is usually voided, so the box throat maybe on private ground. So check it out all. Just saying. Ray.
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Post by gbierner on Oct 7, 2013 18:39:17 GMT -6
Well said I guess u have to draw a picture for some people ( LLL Trapper )
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Post by ghost8 on Oct 7, 2013 19:04:46 GMT -6
I have alot of places around me where I can step off the gravel road and in 2 steps be in the cornfield. To say farmers push it to the limit is mild. The fences are coming out fast. 2 or 3 extra corn rows one half a mile long = free money.
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Post by marshman on Oct 8, 2013 20:59:26 GMT -6
have seen alot of times where culvert mouth is on private,i like state rows better because they are marked by row sign and wider than county, do quite alot of paved roads and not alot of gravel but a little and most often but not always close to main road have to be careful not to go past row,it can be tricky,the northern part of county here sucks for most row trapping and especially closer to big town with people building big expensive homes out in country,alot roads paved and no shoulder,they used to be gravel and cannot stop along road and all mail boxes and driveaways,hardly ever less than 200 yrds away, tons of buildings houses and no parking places, lots no tresspasing signs,do most trapping anyplace but north
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Post by hvtrapper on Oct 9, 2013 5:25:39 GMT -6
I trapped your country 30+ years ago MM. Have to be a billy goat for some of those ROWS.
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