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Post by gut2013 on Oct 16, 2012 20:08:07 GMT -6
i was wondering if anyone knew the law about carrying a .22 pistle during trapping season ... im 17 and will be 18 in november am i allowed to carry it on my side to check traps as long as i case it before entering a truck?
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Post by bradphillips on Oct 16, 2012 20:13:00 GMT -6
Well I ain't no law man but I would guess no pistol till you are twenty one unless with an adult. Sucks, I know, but if you can't buy one till you are twenty one I would guess no carry either. I could be wrong on this, so check it out. Would be a good thing to ask a CO, or maybe K9 will post something.
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Post by gut2013 on Oct 16, 2012 20:23:02 GMT -6
thats what i was thinking but since ive been through hunter safty i thought it might differ its not much difference than carrying a regular 10 22 except its not so big and goes on your side
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 16, 2012 21:04:14 GMT -6
I hate to break it to you but no one under 21 can carry a hand gun of any kind. You can carry when you are 21 IF you have a weapons permit and that has a class you attend and then a shooting section and a written test.
You cannot shoot a rifle in the right of way no matter how old you are. LLL
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Post by kleverbeaver on Oct 16, 2012 21:36:38 GMT -6
The law actually states that no one can shoot a solid projectile from the right of way so we are all wrong
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 16, 2012 21:41:25 GMT -6
The law actually states that no one can shoot a solid projectile from the right of way so we are all wrong Why would you shoot anything but a single projectile from a 10/22 in the right of way at a furbearer or did I miss something here? The point I was making is it is ilegal to shoot a rifle in the right of way. Most people don't shoot birdshot out of a rifle to dispatch furbearers. LLL
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Post by ~ADC~ on Oct 16, 2012 23:24:32 GMT -6
The law actually states that no one can shoot a solid projectile from the right of way so we are all wrong Wrong. Direct from the regulations. "Shooting Rifle Over Water or Highway You cannot shoot any rifle on or over any of the public highways or waters of the state or any rail- road right-of-way. You cannot discharge a shotgun shooting a slug, pistol or revolver on or over a pub- lic roadway (see diagram below). Additionally, no person shall discharge a rifle, in- cluding a muzzleloading rifle or musket, or a handgun from a highway; or discharge a shotgun shooting slugs from a highway north of U.S. Highway 30, while deer hunting. “Roadway” means the portion of the highway improved, designed or ordinarily used for vehicular travel, including the shoulder. “Highway” means the entire width between property lines, from fenceline to fenceline (includes the ditches)."
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Post by hvtrapper on Oct 17, 2012 5:29:07 GMT -6
Kind of goofy, but handgun discharge is O.K. once you're off of the shoulder and in the ditch. Guys are right on with age 21 before owning/carrying handgun with or without permit.
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Post by snarlingraccoon on Oct 17, 2012 8:05:52 GMT -6
Im 17 this year and it will be my second year using a bat. its fun and works great.
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Post by gut2013 on Oct 17, 2012 8:52:07 GMT -6
im not sure how it jumped to different topics all i wanted to know was if it was legal for me to step on private property and load a 22 pistol and then when im done unload it and case it before entering a truck
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Post by 264mag on Oct 17, 2012 8:54:01 GMT -6
Hunters age 17 through 20 may hunt with hand gun when parent guardian or spouse who is 21 is accompanied with them for deer hunting dont know about trapping.
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Post by catting on Oct 17, 2012 9:02:14 GMT -6
roadway is defined as fence line to fence line, this includes the actual travel portion/shoulder down into the ditch and to fence lines on each side of the road. If no fence line is present it would be considered where the fence would be. So yes all that use pistols are technically breaking the law.
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Post by snarlingraccoon on Oct 17, 2012 9:17:06 GMT -6
just saying, no need to waste money. bat gets the job done with alot less mess. sure pistols are cool to carry around and are fun, but most trappers start with a bat anyways. good learning experience. also you could use a 22. long rifle. but you did get your answer. from a couple different people. others just trying to help ya out.
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Post by medicdano on Oct 17, 2012 12:15:08 GMT -6
Single shot rifle with a sling. Lots easier than a bat and legal for ya.
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Post by iowatrapper on Oct 17, 2012 12:20:56 GMT -6
roadway is defined as fence line to fence line, this includes the actual travel portion/shoulder down into the ditch and to fence lines on each side of the road. If no fence line is present it would be considered where the fence would be. So yes all that use pistols are technically breaking the law. How do you figure? Rifle is not a pistol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2012 12:28:43 GMT -6
I know LL will call me out on this, but why mess around with a bat? With a .22 its a done deal every time and you dont have to worry about anything jumping out of your truck!
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Post by catting on Oct 17, 2012 12:41:35 GMT -6
iowa trapper- you are right, a rifle is not a pistol, but the code says you cannot shoot a rifle or pistol on or across the roadway.
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Post by medicdano on Oct 17, 2012 12:43:00 GMT -6
roadway is defined as fence line to fence line, this includes the actual travel portion/shoulder down into the ditch and to fence lines on each side of the road. If no fence line is present it would be considered where the fence would be. So yes all that use pistols are technically breaking the law. Wrong. You can use a pistol from the ditch (off roadway/shoulder), but can't shoot over the roadway, and as long as you are not deer hunting north of HWY 30. Roadway is travel portion of ROW, highway includes the ditch. The law uses "roadway" to define where you can shoot from when not deer hunting.
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Post by rob on Oct 17, 2012 14:37:19 GMT -6
Ok, so you have to be 21 to carry. Does that include veterans or active service members. I didn't have to take the class because I'm a vet, just had to produce my discharge papers.
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Post by medicdano on Oct 17, 2012 14:41:51 GMT -6
Veterans under 21 still can't. If you are active duty and under 21 then you can "if your duties require you to." At least that is how I understand it.
You are correct on the class. Show your papers and your good.
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Post by iowatrapper on Oct 17, 2012 15:29:26 GMT -6
iowa trapper- you are right, a rifle is not a pistol, but the code says you cannot shoot a rifle or pistol on or across the roadway. Read Page 15 of the regs over. You are correct in saying pistol cannot be discharged in roadway which is defined as portion of vehicle travel including the shoulder, ROW is legal. For Rifle it cannot be discharged in the whole right of way including everything from fenceline to fenceline.
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Post by medicdano on Oct 17, 2012 18:03:36 GMT -6
iowa trapper- you are right, a rifle is not a pistol, but the code says you cannot shoot a rifle or pistol on or across the roadway. Read Page 15 of the regs over. You are correct in saying pistol cannot be discharged in roadway which is defined as portion of vehicle travel including the shoulder, ROW is legal. For Rifle it cannot be discharged in the whole right of way including everything from fenceline to fenceline.
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Post by bradphillips on Oct 17, 2012 19:47:44 GMT -6
Obviously a good question, and a lively debate also.
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Post by catting on Oct 17, 2012 20:22:45 GMT -6
I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 18, 2012 5:08:59 GMT -6
When you go and get your permit the class is pretty enlightening. It appears that alot of people either do not know the laws of the right of way/ roadway or they think they do and don't or like some make up what they don't know. With the law I suggest everyone research before using a gun or trapping in the public eye. It may save you some down time in the can!! LLL
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Post by x-demoman on Oct 18, 2012 19:40:36 GMT -6
My bat is ready and will be used extensively this year. Gene
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 17:11:35 GMT -6
Maybe I am not reading this correctly. If I need to dispatch something in the ditch I cannot use a .22 rifle to dispatch it?
I have seen guys pheasant hunt in the ROW, but had permission on the ground over the fence. We see deer hunters line up in the ditch every year and shoot over the fence. They said as long as they weren't shooting over the road they are okay? Wouldn't that be the same thing. Or are these guys breaking the law???
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 19, 2012 18:05:50 GMT -6
No Rifles in the ROW!!! Shotguns are not rifles. Pistols or revolvers are fine. Don't get pinched by something like this. Read the regs!!!!! LLL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 18:44:01 GMT -6
Okay thanks for clearing that up. It all makes sense now. I wouldn't want to have to call my rich uncle Larry to come bail me out! ;D
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Post by LLLTrapper on Oct 19, 2012 19:01:44 GMT -6
I wouldn't either. LLL
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