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Post by ~ADC~ on Aug 17, 2012 20:20:15 GMT -6
Just for fun... If ever the code's section that applies to the regulations you wish to change what are they? (not saying its a good idea to open the code but if it gets open, what changes would you like to see.) I'm thinking it would be nice if these changes were implemented to Iowa's rules and regulations... 1. 330's 1/2 submerged (as opposed to completely submerged). 2. Deer stop not required if using a 285# BAD on snares. (one or the other) 3. 12" loop size instead of 8" for coyote snaring I can think of a couple others but lets see what you are thinking...
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Post by 264mag on Aug 17, 2012 20:30:06 GMT -6
All three you said plus id number on tags instead of your name and address.
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Post by ~ADC~ on Aug 17, 2012 20:35:20 GMT -6
All three you said plus id number on tags instead of your name and address. How about one or the other? Name/address or ID number, that way if people don't want to buy/change hundreds of tags they won't have to. ~ADC~
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Post by 264mag on Aug 17, 2012 20:47:52 GMT -6
Yes that is what I was getting at sorry for the wording it was unclear.
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Post by possum63 on Aug 17, 2012 20:49:44 GMT -6
All three you said plus id number on tags instead of your name and address. How about one or the other? Name/address or ID number, that way if people don't want to buy/change hundreds of tags they won't have to. ~ADC~ I think this would be the way I would want to see it. I am for the ID number, but like many others I don't want to replace them all in one shot. My question is would the ID tags be something I can get from my supplier I use now, or will it be something that I have to get from the DNR? I would like to see the drowning set laws be changed to include DP's. Yes they are not completely submereged but they drown just the same if used correctly.
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Post by TRAPPERTOM on Aug 17, 2012 20:59:12 GMT -6
That is the change they made down here, either number, or address, and you can hold and sell your furs all year, if you did not want to sell, you can just keep them till next year, I liked both of those changes
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Post by paulb on Aug 18, 2012 6:08:12 GMT -6
no trap tags required,or worded better to allow for a lost or animal chewed tags,,no tag required unless trap is actually set and able to close and catch an animal,,not required in back of pick up,,
330's not completly submerged
if trapping with a partner either name on tag
season open at sunrise on opening day
also if trapping with a partner, the younger of the 2 has to carry all heavy stuff, and do all the fur put up,,and furnish the liquid refresments,,and not pick on the older trapper like when he falls down a lot on the ice
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Post by idodocks on Aug 18, 2012 6:54:01 GMT -6
HE ALREADY DOES ALL THAT
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Post by Scott W. on Aug 18, 2012 7:07:17 GMT -6
I would like to see ADC trappers be able use repeating traps, such as the Uhlik.
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Post by k9 on Aug 18, 2012 7:16:42 GMT -6
You covered mine on the snaring ADC, break away or deer stop option. No 8 inch loops.
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Post by grandpa on Aug 18, 2012 9:05:44 GMT -6
I'm with K-9 !!!
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Post by ghost8 on Aug 18, 2012 17:48:59 GMT -6
When calling at night it would be nice to use an artificial light. Snow and bright moonlight don't happen at the same time often enough.
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Post by dahlyjr28 on Aug 18, 2012 21:18:45 GMT -6
Conabear and snare placement in the right-a-way?
Haven't come to a complete understanding on this one. IMO a snare or 220 placed in the fence line on the private side would end in the same result as in the right-a-way. Public view would be the big issue I see. Have come along allot of traps set this way.
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Post by hawkeye1486 on Aug 19, 2012 9:30:03 GMT -6
I would like to see the season open 1 day earlier(on friday) so u could be checkin saturday morning. I also think changing the 330s to half out of the water would be better, may be hard to find water deep enough to fully submerge them this fall!
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Post by Griz on Aug 19, 2012 13:16:37 GMT -6
As much as I would like to see implementation of many of the items suggested, once the code is open, it is possible for anyone to make suggestions. Thus, someone could make a suggestion like: A 160 is the biggest trap that can be used, no traps or snares can be used in the ROW, snares can not be used, or worse. Now the legislature gets to choose which one is made into law. This is not a matter of adding to what we have. If the code is opened, anyone can make suggestions and suggestions from others can take away what we have now. It would even be possible to win what we want but lose something that we have now if the legislative process got into a situation where a compromise was made. In pursuit of what we want, there is more than one way that we can lose what we have. Be careful what you wish for, and choose wisely those battles that we can win against opposition and without add on's from others.
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Post by arcman on Aug 19, 2012 13:19:39 GMT -6
I'd be willing to use both a deer stop and a break away device on my snares if they would just allow a larger loop size. I like to use at least a 9" or 10" loop for coyote. 9" for coon. and 10" to 11" for beaver. So, like ADC said , 12" loop size instead of 8". That would work for me. And the trap tag thing. Just make it to be name and address or trapping license #. Either or. That way you could continue using your old tags if you want or switch over to just a number. The 330's half submerged would be nice also. If they're worried about duck hunting dogs then just allow it after duck season.
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Post by ~ADC~ on Aug 19, 2012 14:52:47 GMT -6
As much as I would like to see implementation of many of the items suggested, once the code is open, it is possible for anyone to make suggestions. Thus, someone could make a suggestion like: A 160 is the biggest trap that can be used, no traps or snares can be used in the ROW, snares can not be used, or worse. Now the legislature gets to choose which one is made into law. This is not a matter of adding to what we have. If the code is opened, anyone can make suggestions and suggestions from others can take away what we have now. It would even be possible to win what we want but lose something that we have now if the legislative process got into a situation where a compromise was made. In pursuit of what we want, there is more than one way that we can lose what we have. Be careful what you wish for, and choose wisely those battles that we can win against opposition and without add on's from others. That's correct. I'm not suggesting we try to get the code opened, but rather looking into what we should have at the ready for amendments we'd like to see if for some other reason the code should be opened. ~ADC~
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Post by Nick C on Aug 19, 2012 17:22:10 GMT -6
I'd love 2 or 3 day check on private ground.
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Post by jv on Aug 19, 2012 19:07:34 GMT -6
48 hour check on conibears and traps that originate from under water
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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 19, 2012 19:41:24 GMT -6
I have to laugh a lil when you guys gripe about changing out all your trap tags, try thinking of the guys like me after High school I have lived at 9 different addersses in the pass 16yrs.
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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 19, 2012 19:44:09 GMT -6
48 hour check on conibears and traps that are set under water the 48 hr check on conis good luck and for the other part about 48hr check on under water traps we have that plus some
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Post by jv on Aug 19, 2012 20:09:52 GMT -6
we have an extended check on drowning sets... not all water sets
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Post by x-demoman on Aug 20, 2012 10:22:24 GMT -6
Those who have attended a ITA BOD meeting would know most and maybe all of the afore mentioned ideas have been discussed and most of them would be something worth working towards. Just last year there was a real possibility the code section with the trap tags in it might be opened and the ITA was ready to offer the ideas mentioned. It was not so no progress on that front.
The only suggestion I would never favor is the Friday opening. This would not give the trappers still in high school an equal opportunity. I feel very strongly they are our future and must be treated equally. I see no reason why someone needs a head start
Gene
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Post by Scott W. on Aug 20, 2012 19:19:59 GMT -6
I don't see the benifit of a Friday opener, but 1/2 hour after sun up on saturday wouldn't hurt my feelings.
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Post by possum63 on Aug 20, 2012 19:51:53 GMT -6
X2
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Post by riverbandit on Aug 20, 2012 20:19:07 GMT -6
I would like to see public trapping grounds be fair and equal. The ROW is public ground and can be pre staked, yet the public trapping grounds along the river I trap are off limits to pre staking. A little un fair IMO.
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Post by hvtrapper on Aug 22, 2012 6:07:09 GMT -6
I would like to see public trapping grounds be fair and equal. The ROW is public ground and can be pre staked, yet the public trapping grounds along the river I trap are off limits to pre staking. A little un fair IMO. Be careful what you wish for RB. That was an argument made for outlawing pre-staking in the ROW.
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Post by riverbandit on Aug 22, 2012 19:24:42 GMT -6
I'm sorry, but IMO its a good argument.
I'm a river trapper, not a ROW trapper, and I expect the same privileges enjoyed by those who ROW trap.
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Post by Nick C on Aug 22, 2012 20:47:03 GMT -6
While we have the wish list going. Why not let us trap coyotes to the end of february? What would that really hurt? We can hunt them year round, but only trap them for 3 months,
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Post by iayogi17 on Aug 23, 2012 7:12:26 GMT -6
While we have the wish list going. Why not let us trap coyotes to the end of february? What would that really hurt? We can hunt them year round, but only trap them for 3 months, we use to be able to trap yotes yr around but that was changed back in the fur boom days, because guys where taking fox out of season
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