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Post by coonnfoxtrapper on Jan 8, 2014 23:42:37 GMT -6
I used alot of pogo's this year so when im ready ill just Un hook the snares/traps. As for the rest of the stuff that i used rebar on itll sit till spring im sure. im not going to blow my back out for a piece of rebar.
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Post by bugeater on Jan 8, 2014 23:57:59 GMT -6
Been snaring coyotes for the last 2 weeks due to the river freezing up a bit. Dont wanna be hanging out downstream when icebergs come flowin down. Having a blast doing it. They are thick as flees here. My set up is a 10 foot snare, 5/64 cable with a cam lock. Adjustable ends. I keep some pogos in my bad and use my driver as a walking/wackin stick if i need it. I havent had one live one yet. All neck snared doa. A good mix of trails and fence holes with most being trails. Great thing about adjustable ends in eastern kansas is theres usually a tree close by, if not i put a pogo on with no tools push it in and go. One trick i use that i noticed most dont is my supports. Just some 11 gauge wire( i use poly tubes for my support and 11 fits best) , i cut a piece about 2 foot long and bend the end a full 180 then take my pogo and using the shallow notches push it in the ground a good 3 or 4 inches. With the bend it wont spin and is solid. I have found with longer snares i have more doa coyotes and i have fine tuned my snare height and loop size. I have the real linesmen pliers that are about 10 inches long and will cut cable well. I use them for reference and make loops 10 across 10 high. Though every trail and situation varys and i just make it match. Sorry for the ramble but hope a helped a bit. And if any of you have any beaver carcass' and can ship fresh frozen or know someone around here let me know. I need a few. -matt
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Post by LLLTrapper on Jan 9, 2014 6:58:23 GMT -6
Our ground is like concrete right now so pushing things in the ground will not work. It is a 4# hammer or more or it is not going in. LLL
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Post by bugeater on Jan 9, 2014 7:42:45 GMT -6
Our ground is like concrete right now so pushing things in the ground will not work. It is a 4# hammer or more or it is not going in. LLL Im using a 4 pound hammer i made into a sod buster. We have had constant freeze thaw conditions so thankfully i got most in before the big freeze last week. The ice is melting so probably this week i will reclaim the river.
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Post by skunkboy on Jan 9, 2014 8:02:03 GMT -6
Couple things Cody...use the 'pipe' style vise grips, the ones that have curved jaws. When you hit the stake, don't hit from the side, pound it down (into the ground) about an inch, just to 'break' the frost grip first, then use the vise grips to twist and lift the stake. Twist the stake with the vise grips to furhter loosen the frost grip, then try pulling and pull straight up or in line with the stake. If you can't get it to budge, use something for leverage. I've had good luck using a pick...the one with the broad blade on one side. Also, take a pice of 2x4 to place under the pick head. It gives you a little more leverage as it raises the pick head. And if you don't have anything on the stake for the pick head to anchor to, put the vise grips on the stake and use those for an anchor.
Once you get the stake started coming up...about 4"-6", you will be able to use the vise grips to twist and pull the stake out by hand.
I've been a Surveyor for over 40 years and have pulled many rebar from frozen ground. These are the methods that I have found to work best.
One word of warning...and this is from personal ezperience...DO NOT shop in Mount Pleasant looking for a pick. They don't have picks in that town. Believe me, I looked at Wally World, a couple hardware stores, a farm store and a couple lumber yards...none anywhere. I even asked a local farmer if I could borrow one from his tool shed...guess what, he didn't have one either.
Hope that helps. Otherwise, yes you will be back in March.
L8R...Ken
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Post by hillbillyken on Jan 9, 2014 9:36:47 GMT -6
Our ground is like concrete right now so pushing things in the ground will not work. It is a 4# hammer or more or it is not going in. LLL larry would using a pilot hole help....like a drill and a long bit...don't think you would have to go very deep to make it solid?
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Post by trapping24 on Jan 9, 2014 20:15:01 GMT -6
Pick up one more nice yote today...I only got 8 snares out but plan to get some more out this weekend
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Post by MMc on Jan 9, 2014 20:42:37 GMT -6
You will have a hard time getting the chain to bite in my experience, I used a pipe wrench tonight to spin and pull a couple out, broke my Chinese vice grips. I've been thinking of re-working a t-post puller, to busy working and trapping to get it done.
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Post by cody13 on Jan 9, 2014 20:53:10 GMT -6
I'm gonna start up the loader tractor on Monday and travel across the countryside pulling stakes.
... Just kidding but that'd be a sight to see.
How do use your #9 stabilizing wire with a cable stake? Drive it down in with the cable?
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Post by TRapper on Jan 9, 2014 21:49:18 GMT -6
I'm gonna start up the loader tractor on Monday and travel across the countryside pulling stakes. ... Just kidding but that'd be a sight to see. How do use your #9 stabilizing wire with a cable stake? Drive it down in with the cable? bend wire in a U at the bottom and push it down the cable stake hole...make the U a lil wider than the hole so it binds as it pushes down
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Post by shortshot on Jan 10, 2014 10:25:29 GMT -6
I carry a med sized pipe wrench to pull stakes when froze. leave yer stakes out of the ground an inch or so, get on them with the wrench, turn to crack them loose then use the pipe wrench to help pull em up. been doing this for a long time and works great
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Post by cody13 on Jan 10, 2014 10:33:31 GMT -6
Big male caught this morning.
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Post by Twiner Trapper on Jan 10, 2014 11:07:10 GMT -6
Nice one, cool coloring too!
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Post by trapperjdb on Jan 10, 2014 13:29:11 GMT -6
Big male caught this morning.
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Post by MMc on Jan 10, 2014 17:36:26 GMT -6
Pretty Awesome catch, like the color. All I had was two traps dug out this morning.
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Post by billallenisu on Jan 10, 2014 18:03:03 GMT -6
Geez, Cody...whenever I brag you up to everyone, I start by saying my wife's cousin Cody the coon trapper. I now have to change that to Cody the coon/ coyote/ fox trapper. Nice job yet again!
Bill Lyon County, Iowa
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Post by cody13 on Jan 10, 2014 18:17:58 GMT -6
Haha nothing to brag about here! Some blind squirrels just find a lot of nuts.
Good year for coyotes!
I've really lost my touch on coon trapping. Not my year on that.
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Post by gard73 on Jan 10, 2014 19:23:07 GMT -6
Do you guys paint or color your snares or just use them shiney?
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Post by trapperjdb on Jan 10, 2014 21:15:00 GMT -6
Do you guys paint or color your snares or just use them shiney? I dip all my snares in Dakotaline snare dip, I prefer brown.
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Post by cody13 on Jan 10, 2014 22:21:48 GMT -6
I use mine as is.
Is painting make much of a difference?
I'm thinking of painting mine a light brown color to blend in with the dead grass for next year along with my #9 wire and stakes if I use rebar.
Been focusing on approaching the trails from the side, never stepping foot on the trail and that seems to be working great. The ones that I did make footprints in the trail or blocked down (open trails) have been avoided. Tracks up to 2 feet away then turn around.
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Post by coonnfoxtrapper on Jan 11, 2014 0:23:06 GMT -6
I'm gonna start up the loader tractor on Monday and travel across the countryside pulling stakes. ... Just kidding but that'd be a sight to see. How do use your #9 stabilizing wire with a cable stake? Drive it down in with the cable? My stabilizing wires this year are on rerod i just pound it in about 6-8 inches so they arent terribly hard to get out. Next winter im going to look into them Thick Long nails and see how they will work with #9 welded to them if that dont work im gona look into the stabilizers like FNT has. I will also be trying my hand at some kill poles That coyote in the last picture looks like it was about to Pull that stake. Looks like your doing a hell of a job on them dogs keep it up cody! Dye or paint your snares! This year ill bet iv missed a dozen coyotes that have Stopped Right at my snare and walk away Last year with my snares boiled in Baking soda i never saw them do that. Next year i will have everything either painted to dipped long before season comes.
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Post by rjvr1122 on Jan 11, 2014 6:48:06 GMT -6
I dip or spray-paint all of my snares.
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Post by cody13 on Jan 11, 2014 12:34:07 GMT -6
That's as deep as I've been pounding them in and have yet to lose one. They are 24 inch stakes. I assume most years it'll take quite a bit more stake to hold them. Today's check
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Post by trapping24 on Jan 11, 2014 21:22:19 GMT -6
what area are you located in cody13, I don't think your to far from me but you must have lots of coyotes around to be snaring so many...reason I ask if you don't mind telling me I would come down and try hunting them sometime when we ever get snow! The coyote numbers up here are way down from years past
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Post by ghost8 on Jan 12, 2014 7:59:52 GMT -6
The way Cody is stacking them up the numbers in his area will be down in a week or two.
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Post by coonnfoxtrapper on Jan 12, 2014 15:06:14 GMT -6
I had one pull a 24 inch rebar stake out The other day on one of my Few snares staked with rebar Your a daring Young man Man Im about 35 miles North East of you cody If your Trapping around BV.
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Post by cody13 on Jan 12, 2014 18:20:42 GMT -6
I'm in BV county. Anywhere within a few miles of the little Sioux should have coyotes.
Coonnfoxtrapper, I ran a line in that direction along the little Sioux last year. All the way up till I could see the water tower of Spencer. Did pretty well and had very little competition. I only saw a couple traps and old pockets.
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Post by TRapper on Jan 12, 2014 18:33:34 GMT -6
caught one today and had one snare chewed in half...here is the coyote today
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Post by coonnfoxtrapper on Jan 12, 2014 20:17:52 GMT -6
I'm in BV county. Anywhere within a few miles of the little Sioux should have coyotes. Coonnfoxtrapper, I ran a line in that direction along the little Sioux last year. All the way up till I could see the water tower of Spencer. Did pretty well and had very little competition. I only saw a couple traps and old pockets. Sure have been a heck of alot of guys around This area the past couple years"O'Brien" But they are usualy done after the first week or 2. Iv been wanting to spread out here for the last month but just cant this year with a truck that gets 10 MPG.. Hoping for a little snow Teusday and wednesday so i can find some tracks and new trails Most of mine are fizzled out iv been getting dogs in footholds only. Josh I like that dead Coyote im looking forward to making some of them tangle stakes.
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Post by cody13 on Jan 12, 2014 20:23:08 GMT -6
Oh you're in O Brien county.. So north west of me?
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